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Australia Vs Rest of World ODI

cric_manic

First Class Debutant
why should australia get 1 million dollars its just a waste of money for a game that will be nothing more than a festival game.
 

cric_manic

First Class Debutant
Richard Rash said:
Although not likely that NZ will be the number 1 side before the April 1 2005 deadline they will quite possibly be ranked second and it seems even more possible that they will not be represented in the rest of world XI which would be a dead set joke considering the last five times they have played aussie in aussie they have won four of them and their ranking proves they are an awesome one day team. Cairns, Oram, Bond (if fit), Vettori, McCullum, Astle and even Fleming should at least be considered for such a team and there should be some form of representation of the kiwi nature in the side. Cairns particually.
typical of the cricket world not wanting to admit that the nz one-day side is a fantastic team and will beat eny other odi team in world cricket consistantly apart from australia . at least three nzers should be in that world X1
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
My ODI ROW XI

Tendulkar
Gayle
Kallis
Lara (c)
Inzamam
Sangakkara +
Flintoff
Pollock
Murali/Harbhajan (Depending if Murali comes)
Akhtar
Harmison
 
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JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
It is highly likely that Stephen Fleming will captain the rest of the world ODI side, unless he suffers a severe form slump in the next four months. Vettori is also a strong candidate if a second spinner was considered (provided Murali gets picked and does play) a likely option.(as a batting allrounder he must surely be a better option for the World XI ODI Team).

Oram may also be in the running for a place if he continues to score in ODIs as an allrounder . (Although Pollock would be the first choice for consideration in this regard)
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Richard Rash said:
Cairns, Oram, Bond (if fit), Vettori, McCullum, Astle and even Fleming should at least be considered for such a team and there should be some form of representation of the kiwi nature in the side. Cairns particually.
They are considered. But I'd choose Flintoff over Cairns and Oram (on current form), Murali over Vettori and Sangakkara over McCullum.

If Bond was fit I'd slide him straight into my ROW XI.

I don't think we're ignoring the Kiwis per se, it's just that their star players all work great within their team to beat the Aussies, but when you single them out there are better players, they just aren't all in the one team.
 

cric_manic

First Class Debutant
Jono said:
They are considered. But I'd choose Flintoff over Cairns and Oram (on current form), Murali over Vettori .
flintoff is not in the same class as cairns and if you were chosing on current form than vettori should be chosen instead of murali
 

Richard Rash

U19 Cricketer
I agree. Cairns has to be there for sure. Are the games going to be played in Aus? if they are then murali won't play anyway will he?
 

Deja moo

International Captain
Jono said:
My ODI ROW XI

Tendulkar
Gayle
Kallis
Lara (c)
Inzamam
Sangakkara +
Flintoff
Pollock
Murali/Harbhajan (Depending if Murali comes)
Akhtar
Harmison
Thats pretty similar to my side, except for Tendulkar coming in for Sehwag.


As for no Kiwis making it into the side, I think thats because they are more of a team than any other side. I dont think any New Zealander would make it if you compare this team man to man with the Kiwis.

Maybe Vettori, but thats only if Murali does not play. And I'd say if Vettori, why not Giles ? Atleast Harbhajan is a proven performer vs the Aussies, if it comes down to needing a replacement for Murali, or even a second spinner as tec suggested.

As for Cairns vs Flintoff, form suggests Flintoff should make it.

And whom would Fleming replace? The only player to make way for Fleming IMO is Kallis.
 

cricketoholic

Cricket Spectator
sachin tendulkar
chris gayle
rahul dravid
jaques kallis
andrew flintoff
brian lara
kumar sangakara(wk)
stephen fleming(cptn)
irfan pathan
muttiah murli
shaun pollock

12th man virendar shewag/makhaya ntini
 

cric_manic

First Class Debutant
im getting tired of the same old argument that nz does not have eny star players
Fleming,Cairns,Vettori,Astle,McCullum all stare players and surperb individuals

yes nz does play as a team but to say we dont compare man for man is wrong
 

cric_manic

First Class Debutant
cricketoholic said:
sachin tendulkar
chris gayle
rahul dravid
jaques kallis
andrew flintoff
brian lara
kumar sangakara(wk)
stephen fleming(cptn)
irfan pathan
muttiah murli
shaun pollock

12th man virendar shewag/makhaya ntini
u would bat flem all the way down there
 

cric_manic

First Class Debutant
Deja moo said:
Thats pretty similar to my side, except for Tendulkar coming in for Sehwag.


As for no Kiwis making it into the side, I think thats because they are more of a team than any other side. I dont think any New Zealander would make it if you compare this team man to man with the Kiwis.

Maybe Vettori, but thats only if Murali does not play. And I'd say if Vettori, why not Giles ? Atleast Harbhajan is a proven performer vs the Aussies, if it comes down to needing a replacement for Murali, or even a second spinner as tec suggested.

As for Cairns vs Flintoff, form suggests Flintoff should make it.

And whom would Fleming replace? The only player to make way for Fleming IMO is Kallis.
and vettori isn't
 

Deja moo

International Captain
cric_manic said:
and vettori isn't
I had just finished creating a post with relevant stats, when I f****d up and managed to delete it.....

I cant be bothered to create it again, so I'll just give you the gist...

In tests vs Australia, Kumble seemed a better pick to play vs Aus than Harbhajan( played just 1 test vs Aus in Aus) and Vettori ( bowls 30% lesser overs per test than Kumble, and has taken 43 wickets in 10 tests vs Aus to Kumbles 88 in 14 tests vs Aus).

The ODI stats surprised me. Vettori averaged 39, Kumble 40, and Harbhajan 43 in ODIs vs Aus. Given that vettori can bat too, he seems a better pick among the three to face Australia in the One dayers..
 

bryce

International Regular
i've got no idea why people are picking inzamam ul-haq in their ROW sides, the idea of putting him ahead of ODI players such as youhana and sarwan seems rather inexplicable
 

LongHopCassidy

International Captain
bryce said:
i've got no idea why people are picking inzamam ul-haq in their ROW sides, the idea of putting him ahead of ODI players such as youhana and sarwan seems rather inexplicable
His recent capers against India (in both India and Pakistan) have lifted his image in my, and many other's, book.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Sarwan has been a flop against Australia in Australia. I would prefer the class of Lara over Sarwan any day. Same with Sachin Vs Sehwag. I would always like to pick the classier players, really, because against Australia, that is what is going to count. And as for the Kiwis, I would play Vettori ahead of the other spinners, simply because I don't think Murali will go to Australia and I rate him just as highly as Harbhajan in ODIs. Bhajji's performance against Pakistan in the ODIs would probably help us out to decide how good he is in ODIs. My team would be like this:


Sachin
Gayle
Lara
Kallis
Sangakkara (wk)
Flintoff
Cairns
Pollock
Vettori
Akhthar
Harmison




Reserves:

Harbhajan
Sarwan
Inzamam
 

JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
I think Murali will play because it is under the auspices of the ICC and he would and should consider it an honour to be included in a World XI.

My selection for World ODI XI

Tendulkar
Gayle
Fleming (Captain)
Dravid
Kallis
Sangakkara (Wicket keeper)
Flintoff
Pollock
Vaas or (Vettori-if a second spinner was preferred/Bond-if fully fit would be the number one pick for this spot)
Akhtar
Murali :xmas: :newyear: :santa:
 
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SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Tendulkar
Sehwag
Gayle
Lara
Kallis
Sangakarra
Flintoff
Cairns
Pollock
Murali

Akhtar

Batting down to nine. Flintoff and Cairns at 7 and 8 show what can be done in the last 10 overs as the top three show what can be done in the first 15.

Seven bowlers plus Sehwag.

All stroke players and big scorers. I think this side would take on a lot.
 

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