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Australia name greatest One Day side
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Mister Wright
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Well, if Kaspa had of bowled that over and only went for 3, Australia, more than likely would have one. I'm not saying - it was because of Kaspa that we lost - it is a team game, but it wasn't the batting that let us down.bryce said:
tooextracool
International Coach
the thing that you and basically anyone who hasnt watched enough off bevan will never understand is that you can only regularly score 270-300 on the flattest of wickets. of course with FTBs hammering more than a run a ball on such wickets it will appear to be the case. the fact is that when your team does come across a slowish wicket where the par total is around 240 -250 they will have problems, incidentally in both games that they've lost recently they did play on slowish wickets and didnt get enough runs. of course your team has such fabulous hitters like symonds,hayden and gilchrist that when it comes to the 300 run wickets they'll simply destroy any bowling attack. no you wont realise how much you miss bevan until you're 120/5 chasing 230 odd and have watson come into bat.Mister Wright said:
rubbish, if you had scored more runs that one over wouldnt have mattered at all, and i think even australia knew that they were at least 20 runs short.Mister Wright said:
the exact details about the loss to england was that australia didnt score enough runs. incidentally they let bowlers like vaughan and giles get all over them. that score was never enough on that pitch and anyone would know that. as far as the dropped catches are concerned the only catches that were dropped were the ones by england, both trescothick and giles guilty of it, so well done with that.Mister Wright said:
err bevan has proven time and time again that he can play any inning required in any situation.Mister Wright said:
LongHopCassidy
International Captain
Don't flatter yourselves.marc71178 said:
bryce
International Regular
yes i agree, the specialist skills of batting, bowling and wicketkeepeing should be all players are judged and selected on - if they are a good fielder that is merely a bonus IMO unless the team is full of crap fielders but 99% of the time that is not the caseScallywag said:
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Stumped342
Cricket Spectator
I don't think Symonds shouls be there.
Stumped342
Cricket Spectator
And the idea of Bevan in the side, I don't think he deserves it.
Stumped342
Cricket Spectator
I think the arguement over Bevan ..
Black Thunder
School Boy/Girl Captain
Michael Bevan should be batting up the order (number 4 or 5). Not so sure about Steve Waugh.
Andy Symonds??? hmmmmmm, questionable. Didn't do anything for 3-4 years and they're putting him in based on 1-2 years. I'd still probably just push him in, especially for his fielding and quick scoring in the latter overs.
Simon O'Donnell. Had to have been better all rounders around....... Would rather have a specialist bowler like McDermott.
My team:
Mark Waugh
Adam Gilchrist
Dean Jones
Ricky Ponting
Michael Bevan
Darren Lehmann
Andrew Symonds
Dennis Lillee
Shane Warne
Craig McDermott
Glenn McGrath
Damien Fleming (12th man)
In a game situation tactics would be for M. Waugh and Gilly to go out hard (particularly Gilly). Jones to follow suit. Ponting at 4 is good because he has the ability to attack or defend depending on what the situation is. i.e. 2 wickets down after 10 overs you'd want him to settle it down a bit and build a solid base for the remaining overs). But if he comes in at 2/150 after 30 overs than just keep the momentum going.
Bevan at 5 would do what he normally does - keeps the runs ticking over. Lehmann and Symonds are two of the quicker scorers to have played the one-day game for the latter overs. Lehmann, being a seasoned veteran of many years, also has the ability to nuckle down if the top order collapses.
With the bowling, the four bowlers would all bowl out their 10 (unless he was getting absolutely carted). Symonds would bowl out the majority of the remaining ten but too not allow the batsmen to get settled against one part-timer/all-rounder than i'd give the ball to either Lehmann or M.Waugh to roll the arm over for 2 or 3 overs. Obviousbly if Symonds was bowling well you'd bowl his 10 out.
I'd also be somewhat inclined to try holding McGrath back to bowl an entire 10 over spell at the end of the innings. Or open up with him and bowl just the 3 or 4 overs and keep his main spell for the end of the innings.
Andy Symonds??? hmmmmmm, questionable. Didn't do anything for 3-4 years and they're putting him in based on 1-2 years. I'd still probably just push him in, especially for his fielding and quick scoring in the latter overs.
Simon O'Donnell. Had to have been better all rounders around....... Would rather have a specialist bowler like McDermott.
My team:
Mark Waugh
Adam Gilchrist
Dean Jones
Ricky Ponting
Michael Bevan
Darren Lehmann
Andrew Symonds
Dennis Lillee
Shane Warne
Craig McDermott
Glenn McGrath
Damien Fleming (12th man)
In a game situation tactics would be for M. Waugh and Gilly to go out hard (particularly Gilly). Jones to follow suit. Ponting at 4 is good because he has the ability to attack or defend depending on what the situation is. i.e. 2 wickets down after 10 overs you'd want him to settle it down a bit and build a solid base for the remaining overs). But if he comes in at 2/150 after 30 overs than just keep the momentum going.
Bevan at 5 would do what he normally does - keeps the runs ticking over. Lehmann and Symonds are two of the quicker scorers to have played the one-day game for the latter overs. Lehmann, being a seasoned veteran of many years, also has the ability to nuckle down if the top order collapses.
With the bowling, the four bowlers would all bowl out their 10 (unless he was getting absolutely carted). Symonds would bowl out the majority of the remaining ten but too not allow the batsmen to get settled against one part-timer/all-rounder than i'd give the ball to either Lehmann or M.Waugh to roll the arm over for 2 or 3 overs. Obviousbly if Symonds was bowling well you'd bowl his 10 out.
I'd also be somewhat inclined to try holding McGrath back to bowl an entire 10 over spell at the end of the innings. Or open up with him and bowl just the 3 or 4 overs and keep his main spell for the end of the innings.
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The Argonaut
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It was the batting that let Australia down on that day. They were about 20 runs short of what they looked like getting at the half way stage.Mister Wright said:
Crazy Sam
International 12th Man
symonds deserves his spot, and I think that his outstanding fielding over the years was a big factor.
I think symonds' current stats are average of 36 with the bat at a strike rate of a touch over 90, and a bowling average of 36 with 4.87 runs per over. Surprisingly his batting average is better than Gilchrist's, although Gilchrist's SR is 94. But again, I think his fielding was a major factor, as it has been great ever since he started playing odi's.
I think symonds' current stats are average of 36 with the bat at a strike rate of a touch over 90, and a bowling average of 36 with 4.87 runs per over. Surprisingly his batting average is better than Gilchrist's, although Gilchrist's SR is 94. But again, I think his fielding was a major factor, as it has been great ever since he started playing odi's.