Asim Kamal - what the?

[wahindiawah]

And yet he's done better than a fair few Pakistani pacers in internationals and has been doing well in domestic cricket. Yes... desperation.

As if that would make him great .

BTW, how had could it be to get the wkts of pak batsmen playing dometic cricket? Their best 5 batsmen in international matches can't last even 3 days.

 

[wahindiawah]

Shoaib Akhtar has played one match in India. He took 8 wickets for 118 runs in that match with 4 in each innings. His wickets included R Dravid (x2), VVS Laxman and SR Tendulkar.

Not seeing how you can be certain about his prowess on Indian pitches based on that evidence.

You gave one example, i give you 3 examples and that happen to be recent ones too. Akhter got pasted by Indian batsmen while playing in his home country

Based on that evidence i do believe that history is going to be repeated and Akhter will get pasted once again for good

 

[cricket player]

Dont worry buddy akhtar wont have sucha hard time facing india.

one more evidence india lost to bangladesh'hehehehehheeh'They lost to bangladesh'heheh'
if they cant attack bangladeshi bowling then how in the hell they are going to face shoiab you idiot.

 

[wahindiawah]

Dont worry buddy akhtar wont have sucha hard time facing india.

one more evidence india lost to bangladesh'hehehehehheeh'They lost to bangladesh'heheh'
if they cant attack bangladeshi bowling then how in the hell they are going to face shoiab you idiot.

Watch ur language, no need 2 get personal.

India and Pak matches are different, no point bringing Bangladesh into the pictue who have already defeated Pakistan in a onedayer.

and yes i agree with u on Akhter, i think he won't have such a hard time against India as he doesn't have the ball to play a complete series against an opponent and as usual will shy away from the competition with an excuse of injury.

 

[cricket player]

It is hard to face the truet some times.

 

[Nate]

Watch ur language, no need 2 get personal.

India and Pak matches are different, no point bringing Bangladesh into the pictue who have already defeated Pakistan in a onedayer.

and yes i agree with u on Akhter, i think he won't have such a hard time against India as he doesn't have the ball to play a complete series against an opponent and as usual will shy away from the competition with an excuse of injury.

Akhtar dammit! How many times have I said that?


Salman Butt
Yasir Hameed
Younis Khan
Inzy Ul-Haq
Yousuf Youhana
Asim Kamal
Kamran Akmal
Mohd. Sami
Umar Gul
Shoaib Akhtar
Danish Kaneria

that would be a very good team IMO. razzaq seems almost useless in tests. Kamal looks to be a v promising bat. And why the picking of Moin?? Akmal kept very well indeed, some excellent stumpings and no more or less than promise with the bat. To me, Gul is better than Shabbir, but either is cool I guess. Whaddya think (wahindiawah may not reply )?

 

[bryce]

And I've seen both bowl quite a bit and I rate Shabbir higher than Umar Gul.

fair enough, no point in trying to argue people's opinions

 

[Gangster]

It is hard to face the truet some times.

What truth might that be?

The truth that Pakistan lost a one-dayer to Bangladesh in the World Cup, to the ridicule of the cricketing world?

The truth that Pakistan almost lost a test match to Bangladesh, and, thanks to poor umpiring, managed to escape with an embarrassing one wicket victory?

Would that be the truth ye seek? Then go forth, my child.

 

[Gangster]

Watch ur language, no need 2 get personal.

India and Pak matches are different, no point bringing Bangladesh into the pictue who have already defeated Pakistan in a onedayer.

and yes i agree with u on Akhter, i think he won't have such a hard time against India as he doesn't have the ball to play a complete series against an opponent and as usual will shy away from the competition with an excuse of injury.

Hey wahindiawah, let this fellow say what he wants. Let us hope that we can face Shoaib half as well as when India toured Pakistan in March 2004. Remember how he tore through the Indian line-up? He was so amazingly brilliant in that series, wasn't he? I'm sure so many Indian batsmen are having nightmares about Shoaib Akhtar.

 

[marc71178]

Watch ur language, no need 2 get personal.

Oh, the irony.

 

[Tony Blade]

I was such a big fan of Pak pace bowlers but with the retirement of the great W's an era of great Pakistani pacers have come to an end.Pakistan will never be able to find champions again.Its just like in Squash where Pakistan had once produced Champs like Jahangir Khan and Jansher Khan but now there is no one to talk about.

They're called legends for a reason.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

As if that would make him great .

BTW, how had could it be to get the wkts of pak batsmen playing dometic cricket? Their best 5 batsmen in international matches can't last even 3 days.

Who called him great? The Pakistan team could use a good bowler right now, who's talking great? Shahid Nazir may just be a good bowler.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

You gave one example, i give you 3 examples and that happen to be recent ones too. Akhter got pasted by Indian batsmen while playing in his home country

Based on that evidence i do believe that history is going to be repeated and Akhter will get pasted once again for good

1. Everyone has a bad series every once in a while.
2. Clearly the Indian batsmen are superior to all others, no?

 

[imranrabb]

wahindiawah

I remember shoiab akhtar on the 19th of september 2004,what did he do to the indian line up then eh?

 

[Richard]

bob doesnt even know about shahid nazir eh thats strange

5622: SAMIAKH, (06 JAN 2005, 18H21:06)

Hi Bob:

You have not responded to my last few e-mails but I understand you must be busy. I have a couple of questions/observations:

1) You state that Mohd. Asif probably needs to add a yard of pace to become more effective on the international circuit. Yet if you look at guys like Mcgrath and Pollock, they have been successful staying between 125-135K's. Which is generally where Asif bowled. Is'nt is more a question of bowling the right channel and hitting the seam consistently, rather than pure pace?

2) You state that you saw Shahid Nazir in the fast bowlers camp held prior to the Aus tour. Is that true? I thought he wasn't invited.

3) Waqar commented that the selectors should have sent more experienced pace bowling support for Akhtar. Given that Shabbir and Gul are out, was he talking about himself?! I mean, with those guys out the only others with test experience were Fazle-Akbar (please God no!), Azhar Mehmood (I guess he would not have done any worse than Sami) and Shahid Nazir (should have been on the tour all along). Waqar was a great Pakistani fast bowler, but cricket commentary/analysis is not his forte.

4) I am a Sr. Manager at an Investment firm. Last year I had to make a personnel decision on my team. I had a superstar who could really turn it on when he wanted, but more often than not was destructive to the team spirit. After almost 2 years of deliberation I finally let him go last year. 2004 was the best year the team had has in 5. (Hint! Hint!)

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REPLY BY: BOB, (07 Jan 2005, 06h27:36)
Hi Samiakh,
1. Yes but he is nopt a Pollock type bowler he has promise needs to get stronger physically but I thought he did well.
2. No I didn't see him
3. People say things but we did not have much choice. Shahid Nazir though apparently bowled well on the last Australian tour. I wish I had known. I should have looked it up!! We definitely needed more experience with the ball.
4. Ok
Bob

That's about the most sensical post I've seen from you!

 

[Richard]

fair enough, no point in trying to argue people's opinions

Well - no, of course not, but I was just making sure you knew I wasn't just judging on stats.

 

[Richard]

India and Pak matches are different, no point bringing Bangladesh into the pictue who have already defeated Pakistan in a onedayer.

And did they defeat them in a live ODI?
No.
Before now, no-one bar Kenya had ever lost to Bangladesh in a live ODI - India make history as the first to be incompetant enough to do so.
Pakistan, meanwwhile, were simply demonstrating their well-known carelessness in dead-rubbers, plus quite possibly their tendancy to use them to make some money from the bookies.

 

[Richard]

What's so bad about Rana?? From what little I've seen he seems to have quite a compact action and can be relatively accurate, compared to some of the other candidates. Plus he can swing it and generally bowls at a decent-to-brisk pace.

I'm amazed - personally I'd say what's good about him?
I mean, this is the guy who's gone for 45 off 8 overs against the might of Hong Kong; 82 off 10 against the magnificent Zimbabweans; and produced spells such as 9 for 67, 10 for 73 and 10 for 65 against the other up-to-standard sides.
All right, he has that 1 9-25-4, but apart from that he's just managed the odd economical 6 or 7-over spell here and there.
He really has amazed me with how poorly he can bowl sometimes.

 

[wahindiawah]

Akhtar dammit! How many times have I said that?


Salman Butt
Yasir Hameed
Younis Khan
Inzy Ul-Haq

that would be a very good team IMO. razzaq seems almost useless in tests. Kamal looks to be a v promising bat. And why the picking of Moin?? Akmal kept very well indeed, some excellent stumpings and no more or less than promise with the bat. To me, Gul is better than Shabbir, but either is cool I guess. Whaddya think (wahindiawah may not reply )?

Its Inzamamul haq dammit.

 

[wahindiawah]

1. Everyone has a bad series every once in a while.
2. Clearly the Indian batsmen are superior to all others, no?

Akht-E-r hardly have a good series.In the the recent series he did well in fits two matches but still amazingly ended up as a villian for Pakistan.

And i never said that Indian batsmen are superior to all others, but suely they are one of the best and on Indian pitches i would certainly back them to take AkhtEr to cleaners.