Warne is god
U19 12th Man
bennyr who's captian?
I was sort of hoping not to have to answer that question. I think I'd have given it to Waugh if he'd have made the first 11, but I think in honour of the extreme improvement made under his captaincy I'd give it to Border.Warne is god said:bennyr who's captian?
Thanks iamdavid,iamdavid said:Looks pretty good to me
Welcome to the board Bennyr
Im going to do an all time world XI
1.S.Gavaskar
2.*L.Hutton
3.D.Bradman
4.G.Headley
5.G.Sobers
6.S.Tendulkar
7.+R.Marsh
8.R.Hadlee
9.M.Marshall
10.D.Lillee
11.S.Warne
12th man.I.Khan
Off the fence C_C pick an opener?C_C said:My alltime XI:
Gavaskar
X ( tough choice between Langer,Simpson,Greenidge,Haynes,Gooch and Boycs)
Bradman
Tendulkar
Viv
Sobers
Gillchrist
Imran Khan
Richard Hadlee
Malcolm Marshall
Murali.
Captaincy: Easy as a pie- Imran Khan.
Not bad I thought F.S. Jackson may have made one of your English sides. Who is G. Grace? The missing brother Though apparently his family and close friends always called him Gilbert.a massive zebra said:World
England
J Hobbs*
L Hutton
W Hammond
D Compton
K Barrington
I Botham
A Knott+
J Laker
F Trueman
A Bedser
S Barnes
12th Man: G Grace
England A
H Sutcliffe
G Boycott
P May*
K Ranjitsinhji
E Dexter
W Rhodes
M Tate
G Evans+
H Verity
F Tyson
B Statham
12th Man: D Gower/D Underwood
Warne vs. Murali
Warne:
Tests: 114
Wickets: 537
Average: 25.64
5 WI: 27
10 WM: 8
Muralitharan:
Tests: 91
Wickets: 532
Average: 22.86
5 WI: 44
10 WM: 13
On the face of it, Murali may have been the youngest and fastest in terms of tests to the 500 wicket mark in tests but figures may show that there is nothing much to choose between Warne and the wily off Spinner from Kandy. Both have hurled down nearly similar number of overs in tests they have bowled, though Murali has played in lesser tests, he has bowled almost the same number of overs. And there’s so much similarity as regards the strike rate, almost every 10 overs bowled, both get their wickets on the average. The major difference comes when one takes the concept of playing conditions. Warne has played more tests at home compared to Murali, but its too lopsided for Murali, he has been more successful in the matches played within the sub-continent rather than outside! And most of the wins have come at home for Sri Lanka, he does have a great rate of taking an average of 5 wickets every test, but that’s doesn’t really suit the team’ cause, the others let him down.
Ultimately to conclude this comparison of the bests, I would say Murali does a One Bowler show for Sri Lanka, whereas Warne is just one of the superstars for Australia, there is McGrath, Gillespie, and Brett Lee who torment the batsmen and keep tugging away at the wickets column every now and then. Probably that’s why Warne has had to wait for more number of tests to get to the World Record!
And not many subcontinentals will go the other way either. Both sides think they have good arguments, but there's not much point going over it again.C_C said:Oh dear. Not the Murali vs Warney argument again.
Not many aussies or english fans will concede that Warney is inferior to Murali but that is the viewpoint i hold- though both are alltime greats.
You got it.archie mac said:Who is G. Grace? Though apparently his family and close friends always called him Gilbert.
Jackson was indeed a marvellous all round cricketer who thrived on captaincy, leading from the front in a manner rather reminiscent of Graham Gooch (although with much greater results). His Test record was unmatched in the pre-war era and this marked success is all the more surprising when you consider that he only averaged low 30s for Yorkshire. However, my main problem when considering him for selection in the England selection was who to drop, and no one really stood out as a weak link. Perhaps he could replace Tate in the second team to boulster the rather weak lower order batting - we would still have four great bowlers in Rhodes, Verity, Tyson and Statham.archie mac said:Not bad I thought F.S. Jackson may have made one of your English sides.
This is my take on it.KaZoH0lic said:For those making All-Time XI, I thought it was drastic to pick Murali over Warne. I found an article that was very informing about the pair at the time where they were both playing and were close to each other in the wicket stakes: