SillyCowCorner1
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This really feels like a Bangladesh v India at the WC in Caribbean 2007.
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Afghanistan v India (WIN OR GO HOME FOR INDIA!) at Abu Dhabi, 11/3 Wednesday (N), Match #33, Group 2
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RossTaylorsBox
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What happened to the India wicket watch
You could really get arrested for that in India? I don't know if I believe it lol
OverratedSanity
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Haha no. T20 WC is a fake WC. Nowhere near the same significance.
Would be funny if Afg won tbh. Rooting for them.
Burgey
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What a wonderful lift it would give to all Afghan people were their side to win after what the country has gone through for so long.
Particularly against such uppity spoiled brats as India who, having told everyone they could pick three sides and still win everything and being gifted entry to the spud side of the draw, now find themselves hoping to beat a genuine minnow in order to have a shot at progressing.
Obviously I am a neutral when it comes to this match, and have no ill will to either side or theiridiot fanbois supporters. I think it would just be fantastic to see such a huge under dog as the 'Ghan get up here.
Particularly against such uppity spoiled brats as India who, having told everyone they could pick three sides and still win everything and being gifted entry to the spud side of the draw, now find themselves hoping to beat a genuine minnow in order to have a shot at progressing.
Obviously I am a neutral when it comes to this match, and have no ill will to either side or their
Burgey
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As opposed to the #freedom you enjoy to post whatever you like from where you are now. Please give us some local political views asap.
srbhkshk
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He wouldn't, but if he went out in the street to celebrate Pakistan's victory against India then he would be.
nightprowler10
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Should be a favorable update for India I feel after this match. Current tally stands at:
Livingstone - 4
India - 2
honestbharani
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You should copyright this.
honestbharani
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Leaving aside the idiot haters others' views, the lack of balance is always a concern here. I would try to play this side -
Rahul
Kishan
Rohit
Virat
Pant
Hardik
Jadeja
Shardul
Ashwin
Bhuvi
Bumrah
Having Ashwin and Bhuvi at 9 and 10 is basically mitigation planning, but Ash has shown he can play few power shots and if it comes down to surivival mode against their spinners, this is still decent insurance to allow the openers as well as 5-8 to go for it. Rohit and Virat to be the cakes but if they end up batting together, one has to try and go on the attack. Two things India should remember - attacking does not only mean 6s, you can try to hit 4s and pinch 2s when playing in Abu Dhabi and Dubai. And mystery spin is really not gonna work against Afghanistan. You are better off backing test match level bowlers and asking them to bowl normally. Ashwin can bowl some overs in the powerplay, he is always a very good option with the new ball across formats. Shardul usually bowls one in the PP too. The remaining 3 overs can be split between Bumrah and Bhuvi. Afghanistan are still fallable to quality swing bowling and if somehow Virat wins the toss, Bhuvi can be super useful in the twilight timezone with the ball moving in the open ground of Abu Dhabi.
Rahul
Kishan
Rohit
Virat
Pant
Hardik
Jadeja
Shardul
Ashwin
Bhuvi
Bumrah
Having Ashwin and Bhuvi at 9 and 10 is basically mitigation planning, but Ash has shown he can play few power shots and if it comes down to surivival mode against their spinners, this is still decent insurance to allow the openers as well as 5-8 to go for it. Rohit and Virat to be the cakes but if they end up batting together, one has to try and go on the attack. Two things India should remember - attacking does not only mean 6s, you can try to hit 4s and pinch 2s when playing in Abu Dhabi and Dubai. And mystery spin is really not gonna work against Afghanistan. You are better off backing test match level bowlers and asking them to bowl normally. Ashwin can bowl some overs in the powerplay, he is always a very good option with the new ball across formats. Shardul usually bowls one in the PP too. The remaining 3 overs can be split between Bumrah and Bhuvi. Afghanistan are still fallable to quality swing bowling and if somehow Virat wins the toss, Bhuvi can be super useful in the twilight timezone with the ball moving in the open ground of Abu Dhabi.
honestbharani
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Back injury... Not sure if he has recovered enough to play. As always, we have gone into a WC with 3 wicket keepers in the batting line up for some reason.
I am definitely getting the 2018 Oval test vibes with this side. They are just battered and bruised. Individually, the same players may do better but right now they are jaded, under immense pressure from all around and frankly, as a XI they are not balanced enough to allow them to play the way each player would want to. Could well go south today especially if Virat loses another toss as usual.
Going forward, with T20s becoming more of a role based game than just skills, the team needs to figure out the type of players they want and the style of cricket they want to pursue. We could have won one of our two games at least had we played like we did in 2016. But we tried to play how we should have played back then in these conditions and failed. Ideally you dont want more than 2 bowlers who cant bat (even that is a bit of a luxury as you at least want them to be able to hit a long ball when needed) and you dont want more than 4 guys in the side who cant bowl.
1, Anchor type opener (Rohit)
2. Aggresive opener who is also the keeper (Ishan/Rahul)
3. Anchor cake batsman (Virat)
4. Batsman who can sore quickly against spin and in the middle overs (SKY/Shreyas)
5. Batsman who can score fast and bowl (no readymade options - Dube/Shankar were tried - Sundar worth a go in ths role)
6. Batsman who can score fast and bowl (Hardik)
7. Batsman who can score fast and bowl (Jadeja)
8. Bowler who can hit a long ball (Shardul)
9. Bowler who can hit a long ball (Deepak Chahar)
10. Specialist Bowler (Bumrah)
11. Specialist Bowler (Chahal/Varun)
Such a squad gives the side options. If Sundar plays, then you have Chahar, Sundar, Bumrah and Shardul all of whom can bowl in the powerplay in different capacities. Then you can attack in the middle overs with the leggie/myster spinner and defend on the other side with Hardik and Jaddu. This also creates role clarity for all players invovled and is a decent line up to pick from. Unfortunately, we tend to go by social media pressure where after every Pant inning/Rahul inning/Ishan inning everyone asks, why are they not in the XI? The simple answer is T20 is much of a team and even squad game than the other formats.
I am definitely getting the 2018 Oval test vibes with this side. They are just battered and bruised. Individually, the same players may do better but right now they are jaded, under immense pressure from all around and frankly, as a XI they are not balanced enough to allow them to play the way each player would want to. Could well go south today especially if Virat loses another toss as usual.
Going forward, with T20s becoming more of a role based game than just skills, the team needs to figure out the type of players they want and the style of cricket they want to pursue. We could have won one of our two games at least had we played like we did in 2016. But we tried to play how we should have played back then in these conditions and failed. Ideally you dont want more than 2 bowlers who cant bat (even that is a bit of a luxury as you at least want them to be able to hit a long ball when needed) and you dont want more than 4 guys in the side who cant bowl.
1, Anchor type opener (Rohit)
2. Aggresive opener who is also the keeper (Ishan/Rahul)
3. Anchor cake batsman (Virat)
4. Batsman who can sore quickly against spin and in the middle overs (SKY/Shreyas)
5. Batsman who can score fast and bowl (no readymade options - Dube/Shankar were tried - Sundar worth a go in ths role)
6. Batsman who can score fast and bowl (Hardik)
7. Batsman who can score fast and bowl (Jadeja)
8. Bowler who can hit a long ball (Shardul)
9. Bowler who can hit a long ball (Deepak Chahar)
10. Specialist Bowler (Bumrah)
11. Specialist Bowler (Chahal/Varun)
Such a squad gives the side options. If Sundar plays, then you have Chahar, Sundar, Bumrah and Shardul all of whom can bowl in the powerplay in different capacities. Then you can attack in the middle overs with the leggie/myster spinner and defend on the other side with Hardik and Jaddu. This also creates role clarity for all players invovled and is a decent line up to pick from. Unfortunately, we tend to go by social media pressure where after every Pant inning/Rahul inning/Ishan inning everyone asks, why are they not in the XI? The simple answer is T20 is much of a team and even squad game than the other formats.
Burgey
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lol why would that be? Honestly, no one should have any sympathy about players from anywhere being #tired after they've just decided to take the Arthur Ashe as a priority over being in top shape for an actual WC in any format.
honestbharani
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Who is asking for sympathy here? I think when you are already tired and then you get beaten so badly, you become jaded. That is just the reality.
And you can argue about the why and how all you want but if the IPL means players like Mohammed Siraj, Umran Malik and Natarajan getting a better lifestyle due to their hardwork and commitment to the game, then I am all for it. Its not like we were gonna win this one easily even with our best side being picked and being totally fresh, so I am more than happy to trade off this format for greater success in other formats and more secure financial futures for the ones taking up this game in this massive country.
Spark
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I get where hb is coming from but it does kind of feel like, if this campaign fizzles out, then the last six months or so of cricket will go down as a big missed opportunity. On the back of Australia and the home series vs England, it really felt like India were have one of those years where they stamp themselves as a generational multi-format dominant side but between the WTC, an "okay" result against England away and now this it feels like they've let that slip.
honestbharani
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You answer is right there. To play so much of BIG cricket in these times within a span of 6 months and being constantly away from home and in bubbles was the mistake. But it's BCCI s own doing, so while it's ok to feel sorry for the players at some level, BCCI also deserves this poor performance for being selfish and greedy ****s.
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SillyCowCorner1
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Ashwin last played a white-ball game for India 4 years ago...