marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
I'd pick Swann ahead of Batty.SpeedKing said:If we have only one reliable spinner, then we will have to go with only that spinner. That's what i think but Batty will probably play
I'd pick Swann ahead of Batty.SpeedKing said:If we have only one reliable spinner, then we will have to go with only that spinner. That's what i think but Batty will probably play
Anderson is 22, Mahmood 23 and Tremlett is 23. That's pretty young and inexperienced but the potential is most definitely there, just ask rod marsh.EnglishRose said:I mean England's reserve bowling lineup of Lewis, Tremlett, Batty, mahmood and Anderson is laughable.
Australia have much better reserves.
Probably something appalling like India racking up 700+EnglishRose said:Had the likes of Mahmood, Lewis, Tremlett, batty etc been facing Tendulkar, Dravid, Laxman and Sehwag what do you think would have happened ?
Well I am sure they will be.marc71178 said:I do like the way you've written off 3 there who have never played International cricket.
Automatically decided they'll be rubbish have you?
this time I think Pakistan will beat England in the tests.Beleg said:Pakistan will beat England in the ODI's but not the test.
Based on what exactly?EnglishRose said:Well I am sure they will be.
The one who calls all the English on the forum idiots is too shortsighted to wait for any evidence before making blind assumptions and is dismissing players before they've bowled a ball in international cricket. That's really super bright isn't it?EnglishRose said:Well I am sure they will be.
and im sure the lights off bracken with his test average in the 50s, alone with williams, lee, tait and the rest of the rubbish will have england quaking in their boots.EnglishRose said:I mean England's reserve bowling lineup of Lewis, Tremlett, Batty, mahmood and Anderson is laughable.
Australia have much better reserves.
the same vaughan of course who averages 53 in india and scored a remarkable 105 against murali with doosra to save england on a 5th day pitch.C_C said:I somehow dont see the likes of Vaughan-Key-Flintoff etc. surviving a 5th day crumbler against Kumble and Bhajji.
maybe but i hope not too much, it shouldn;t change after one series defeat since they have been more successful together as aunit in the last year, i do see after the ashes talk of talk being replaced start popping up, similar to what happened to Hussain last season.Mister Wright said:After England get flogged in the Ashes the line-up is likely to be changed a lot anyway.
they should if england win the ashes its going to be a close finish anywayLongHopCassidy said:Would Australia still be considered number 1 if they lost the Ashes, though?
if we are talking about the pakistan series Thorpe should be in their instead of KP, if you are refering to India then since thorpe will be playing for NSW then that line-up is safe, even though i wont mind seeing Keedy their in India has a second spinner to Gilo instead of batty and swann but thats just my opinionJamee999 said:The Lineup is likely to be(barring injuries)
Trescothick
Strauss
Vaughan
Bell
Pietersen
Flintoff
G.Jones+
Giles
S.Jones/Batty????
Hoggard
Harmison
What about Thorpe and Vaughan???????? thopre for one batted beautfully againts PAK & SRI in 2001 againts Saqlain, Mushtaq, Arshad, Kaneria, Murali & his blokes.C_C said:I highly doubt England will do well in India.
Since the departure of Gooch, there has been a paucity of english batsmen who can play top quality spin well enough on their own homesoil, let alone the backyard of spin.
I somehow dont see the likes of Vaughan-Key-Flintoff etc. surviving a 5th day crumbler against Kumble and Bhajji.
Sitting from here, i can see only one series where OZ probably wont go in as the favourite- Ind vs AUS in 2007 in Australia.........Tendulkar,Dravid,Sehwag,Bhajji, etc. would still be around but Australia would be missing almost everybody barrig Ponting,Clarke and Gillespie from the current lineup.
not necessarily....as well as england has been playing recently, i'm sure they know that they go into the ashes as clear underdogs...Langeveldt said:England should be back to square one once they have been stuffed out of sight by Australia, and just like every other side who has to play them, will be in rebuild mode and will probably underperform against Pak..
Thorpe will retire in September, it's the worst kept secret since Atherton retired!aussie said:if we are talking about the pakistan series Thorpe should be in their instead of KP, if you are refering to India then since thorpe will be playing for NSW then that line-up is safe, even though i wont mind seeing Keedy their in India has a second spinner to Gilo instead of batty and swann but thats just my opinion
well if Thorpe does retire in september i would like to see Butcher back in the england middle order, having 2 inexperienced but talented batsmen in the middle order on those sub-continent tours and beyond could be fatal.marc71178 said:Thorpe will retire in September, it's the worst kept secret since Atherton retired!
As for Keedy - I think a lack of variation from the number 1 bowler added to other options being better with bat and in the field will mean he doesn't play.
So Tait is rubbish now is he?tooextracool said:and im sure the lights off bracken with his test average in the 50s, alone with williams, lee, tait and the rest of the rubbish will have england quaking in their boots.