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5 greatest cricketers since Don’s retirement.

5 greatest cricketers since Don’s retirement


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smash84

The Tiger King
Oh Right, but I think If Thomson can hit 160kmph with his diet of a shot of Whiskey every morning, I don't think it's that improbable that Larwood with his run-up and similar slingy action can hit 150s as David Frith and Frank Foster thought he did. Brett Lee was pretty consistently fit and he was a similar pace as Akhtar generally so I think Akhtar's lack of fitness must've to do with more than just pace, maybe something with his action.

This is kind of the ceiling and floor conversation, the floor would be elavated by that as it directly connects to the average person but the Fast bowlers who maintained health and had access to a vast variety of food would not really be impacted by the common man having an easier life, I am more thinking of how the modern Cricketers spent so much more time in the gyms, train a lot more and have very strict and proper diets and yet they still aren't faster than the ceiling of the pacemen from the 70s and 80s. If Numbers are to be believed, Andy Roberts hit a number that was higher than even Mark Wood who has hit the highest of any ongoing pacer right now, I really do think the ceiling has stayed about the same while the floor has elavated.

Overall, it's really weird and it's impossible to tell what pace anyone bowled pre 1998 imo, but I did read a study that put Fred Trueman and Frank Tyson to be bowling at 150+, if that's true then Larwood is definitely 150+.
The ceiling and floor part makes sense and yes it is very difficult to say with any certainty about pre 1998 bowlers but it seems to me even looking at the footage that the professionalism in the game is much higher now and in the 1930s it does look very amateurish. But I agree that it is impossible to say with certainty.
 

Coronis

Hall of Fame Member
I think the fastest we ever saw was Shoaib Akhtar and he definitely gained much from improved diet and training. He would have petered out much sooner if he didn't have access to those. Heck even with those things he wasn't very fit let alone what he would be without those. The numbers bear him out to be the fastest ever too.

The second world war stopped things temporarily but so many lessons were learnt during that time that a lot of scientific breakthroughs came into the 1950s and 60s. WW2 actually signficantly improved innovation in post war periods and which is why we saw so much advancement post war. Diets also improved immensely and so did access to medication and medication itself. People in the 1980s didn't have to worry about toe nail infections or even other bacterial infections. In the 1930s those infections could be a death sentence. People had more access to different sorts of dairies and meats along with more variety of fresh produce between in the 1980s than they did in the 1930s. Heck supermarkets really became a thing during the 1950s to 70s. So no, I don't think the difference from 1980s to 2020s is as big as from 1930s to 1980s.
If only that were true in the 00’s.
 

shortpitched713

Cricketer Of The Year
So Imran seems to be proof here on CW. You can be one of the very greatest but miss out on the 1st XI.

Good for NK Reddy to keep in mind after he missed the England tour 1st Test selection, and for any future selections he might miss.
 

subshakerz

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
So Imran seems to be proof here on CW. You can be one of the very greatest but miss out on the 1st XI.

Good for NK Reddy to keep in mind after he missed the England tour 1st Test selection, and for any future selections he might miss.
Blame me. I missed the first round vote and Imran was tier with McGrath.
 

Randomfan

U19 Vice-Captain
I don't know where I will rank IK as a cricketer, but IK not making the XI does not mean that he is not 3rd best or whatever. We are picking for a role and he may miss the spot due to competition for a specific role/spot.

Let me put it this way, Imagine if Sobers had never played cricket.
Also, assume that we can find 6 batsmen and 6 bowlers ( total 12 players who we rate higher as cricketer, just run with this assumption for a minute)
IK will be highly likely to get a spot for an all rounder even if he does not show up as the top 12 as cricketer.

It's about the role and competition.
 
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