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  1. Ruckus

    *Official* Fifth Test at The Oval

    How is Hooksey's opinion even remotely "chest-beating"? He straight out said the opposition are more talented ffs
  2. Ruckus

    *Official* Fifth Test at The Oval

    na just some guy they found of the street, equally ugly too
  3. Ruckus

    *Official* Fifth Test at The Oval

    and michael vaughan Former England captain Michael Vaughan gives his verdict on day three of fifth Ashes Test | News.com.au
  4. Ruckus

    *Official* Fifth Test at The Oval

    yes, pretty much every single article/item on cricinfo mentions it: England v Australia, 5th Investec Test, The Oval, 3rd day Report : England forced to grind as Australia chip away | Cricket News | ESPN Cricinfo The Huddle : England v Australia, 5th Investec Test, The Oval, 3rd day | 'This is...
  5. Ruckus

    *Official* Fifth Test at The Oval

    I can't comment on the NZ match, I didn't see it. I'm sure what point your trying to make with it either tbh, the comments I've been making have been in the context of this match and series alone. As for the bolded part, I haven't based my opinion of them playing with a negative mindset simply...
  6. Ruckus

    *Official* Fifth Test at The Oval

    from maximas a few pages ago, an idea that people seem to be really struggling to grasp. It isn't black and white, all or nothing etc.: If you then want to argue a reasonable pace was what Eng were going along at, well then that's simply where I disagree. I don't think the bowling nor the...
  7. Ruckus

    *Official* Fifth Test at The Oval

    I cbf anymore honestly, this has never been the argument.
  8. Ruckus

    *Official* Fifth Test at The Oval

    I'm not sure if it was a joke article or not, but apparently Eng gave monty panesar a bit of a post match tribute.
  9. Ruckus

    *Official* Fifth Test at The Oval

    None of the main batsmen except Pietersen were taking excessive risks in the second innings, they were pretty much playing normally. And that was their game plan - they were trying to go along at a pretty standard rate, and then would try and go for the chase when they knew wickets were in hand...
  10. Ruckus

    *Official* Fifth Test at The Oval

    Prior didn't seem to gave a problem, nor did Eng in their second innings.
  11. Ruckus

    *Official* Fifth Test at The Oval

    Those are the points I would contest. I don't think the bowling was anything special; as I said before Harris and Lyon were the only impressive ones (even Harris I don't think was quite as good as he had been). The others were ok, but there was plenty more on offer than the Eng batsmen took...
  12. Ruckus

    *Official* Fifth Test at The Oval

    Because you said "It's because we realized that a draw was better than a lose after all, which basically rendered our second innings rubbish attempt at posting a sizable total, useless.". I.e. it can only be rendered a rubbish attempt in hindsight. Before Eng started the chase there was a small...
  13. Ruckus

    *Official* Fifth Test at The Oval

    Because I think you were, or at least were unconcerned with any push for a victory (but it effect it's the same thing). As somone on cricinfo put it "When England are under pressure, they commit themselves zealously to pre-programmed, conservative, risk-free cricket. There will be a computer...
  14. Ruckus

    *Official* Fifth Test at The Oval

    Do or do not. There is no try.
  15. Ruckus

    *Official* Fifth Test at The Oval

    Well yeah, it just as equally eliminated the possibility of win for Eng too though. You seem to be looking at everything in hindsight; at the start of the declaration, whilst small, there was still a chance of victory for us. I mean of course we stopped pushing for one when the only options...
  16. Ruckus

    *Official* Fifth Test at The Oval

    That's fair enough, but how does that apply to the context of this match? Australia had every right to try and push for a win.
  17. Ruckus

    *Official* Fifth Test at The Oval

    Some of the bowling was absolutely terrible too though, if I'm wanting to be entirely honest.
  18. Ruckus

    *Official* Fifth Test at The Oval

    yeah my thoughts too. At the same time though, the fact is once the next series in Aus rolls around any 'momentum' or 'team morale' bull**** will be behind them anyway. It will largely be a clean slate. Way too much emphasis is placed on those kind of arguments for mine. I really don't think...
  19. Ruckus

    *Official* Fifth Test at The Oval

    The bowling to Eng in their first innings wasn't that great. Harris was solid as always, and Lyon had very good rhythm, but Starc, Siddle and Faulkner offered plenty of innocuous stuff.
  20. Ruckus

    *Official* Fifth Test at The Oval

    For it to be admitted that Eng weren't trying to win the match at that stage, and were perfectly content with playing for a draw. This isn't just me, pretty much all the articles written about it have highlighted that attitude. In the context of the match and series I just don't think that kind...

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