3rd Test (Lord’s) - 10 July to 14 July

[cnerd123]

No they didn’t. Iirc they said the margin of error is miniscule and the 50% is just arbitrary to keep umpires relevant.

Yea just checked, the error margin is less than half a ball, around 5-10 mm. Half a ball is a bit excessive.

**** yes Washy, massive wicket. Classic playing for the non existent turn. Kept low too.

 

[Johan]

get to 200+ at the very least

 

[Arachnödouche2.0]

That was coming, he'd nearly been done like that a few times already

This has to be the play each time he comes out. Get the spinners on. Don't care if you have to take the ball away from Bumrah to do it.

 

[LangleyburyCCPlayer]

C’mon Woakesy, do something!

 

[flibbertyjibber]

This ones done then.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

India heavy favourites now then. Need something special here

Idk I feel like 200+ will be too much for them on this

 

[kevinw]

When was the last time Stokes batted well with the tail? 2023 Ashes?

 

[Daemon]

Nah, I kinda see their point. The odd one like today's should not take away from the fact that the umpire's call is based on the margin of error with the projections.

Umpire's call on impact can gagf though.

It isn’t. It’s made up.

Why do we choose to rely on a more unreliable method in the situation when its least reliable? Umpires call makes no sense.

I don’t have an issue with keeping LBWs in check. I’m fine if you want marginal leg stump LBWs to not be out - make a specific rule for it. Umpires call exists now for all 3 stumps and impact as well.

 

[Arachnödouche2.0]

The maligned allrounders doing the heavy lifting for India this Test.

 

[The Brian Hardie Stance]

England were basically on toast from the very first half hour today. Can't see them matching India's intensity for the chase.

 

[centurymaker]

You can't just arbitrarily reduce the margins wtf. The makers of Hawkeye are the ones who said the error margins are half a ball. It's possible the tech is more accurate now, but that would have to come from Hawkeye themselves, backed with some evidence to support it

@Daemon is right. He has refreshed our memories.

Margin is very very small.

They keep the margin at half a ball to keep the umpires happy. A cushion/a margin for the umpires.

 

[GIMH]

Umpires call exists now for all 3 stumps and impact as well.

Umpires call on middle would be interesting

 

[slowfinger]

I'm not asking for a large adjustment. The overwhelming majority of out dimissals would be unchanged. I essentially just think most "umpire's call" decisions should be simply not out (with the caveat that the very stupid oversight where DRS currently pretends the bails don't exist needs to be fixed)

i think most people here would argue the opposite, umpire's call should be out owing to "advances in technology"

 

[Spark]

i think most people here would argue the opposite, umpire's call should be out owing to "advances in technology"

Yes, I'm aware. Those people are wrong, and do not think about either the balance of the game or the actual intent of the LBW law when they suggest that. It was never, ever, ever intended to have batsmen given out because the ball might have flicked the coat of paint on the outside of the leg bail. That would have been utterly unthinkable pre-DRS.

 

[Ju7]

We are gonna bat last. Aren't they creating an issue for themselves?

To me it's about the Laws of the game.They should be upheld regardless of how it may or may not benefit one side or another.

 

[Daemon]

Umpires call on middle would be interesting

On height

 

[Ju7]

Encouraging signs for England with the help for the spinners on offer for Ba…oh

 

[cnerd123]

They keep the margin at half a ball to keep the umpires happy. A cushion/a margin for the umpires.

No one gives a **** about the umpires. TCM suggests it's to keep the balance of bat and ball fair, which makes sense. If every borderline clipping decision was given as out the game would be a lot more low scoring.

It isn’t. It’s made up.

Why do we choose to rely on a more unreliable method in the situation when its least reliable? Umpires call makes no sense.

I don’t have an issue with keeping LBWs in check. I’m fine if you want marginal leg stump LBWs to not be out - make a specific rule for it. Umpires call exists now for all 3 stumps and impact as well.

They have. It's called Umpires call.

 

[mackembhoy]

The margin - "50% of the ball has to be hitting" needs to be reduced to 25% of the ball.

Technology has improved so much that they need to decrease these margins.

They only have umpires call because the ICC wanted to give the onfield umpires more say than the technology.

 

[Spark]

TCM suggests it's to keep the balance of bat and ball fair, which makes sense. If every borderline clipping decision was given as out the game would be a lot more low scoring.

FWIW I don't think this is in the intent of umpire's call at all, that goes against every explanation we've been given by the ICC. I do think it's a very good reason to at least keep it now, if we're not going to change the law.