• Welcome to the Cricket Web forums, one of the biggest forums in the world dedicated to cricket.

    You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join the Cricket Web community today!

    If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Gordon Greenidge vs Shivnarine Chanderpaul

Who was the greater test batsman?

  • Total voters
    45
CricketFan90s

CricketFan90s

State Vice-Captain
Greenidge played as an Opening Batsmen and Chanderpaul was a No5 or No6 player so not a right comparision.
Greenidge was part of a World Champion Team and Chanderpaul was playing in a weak team.
Chanderpaul was more versatile as he also proved to be a Good ODI Opener for sometime and played and scored centuries at various positions.
Chanderpaul could have done better if he was part of a dominant team. As he was playing for a weak team he became more of a selfish player to accumulate runs to save his position in the Team.
Will go with Greenidge as he was one of the Trendsetting opener of 70s and 80s and played a bigger role in World Cricket.
 
Coronis

Coronis

Hall of Fame Member
Never forget Chanderpaul made a 69 ball century against Australia. (no Warne/McGrath that test tbf)
 
BazBall21

BazBall21

International Captain
Lloyd vs Chanders would have been closer and the battle of two no5s, but suspect Clive would come out on top.
 
CricketFan90s

CricketFan90s

State Vice-Captain
Beamer said:
As a modern generation West Indian supporter I think players from the 70s and 80s get rated too highly against genuinely great modern players just because they won more.

Shiv was badass and held oblivion at bay for many years. To say it's not close is just disrespectful tbh.
Click to expand...
You are right but we judge players based on their competitive edge they had in their generation. You also need to understand that older generation players did not have many advantages modern players have fitness trainings, diet etc. So we judge older players to modern players only based on their competitive edge. For example : How Bradman will play in modern game is debatable however, he had the intelligence and skill to outcompete players of his generation. It is their ability to outcompete players of their generation counts. May be with the training they give today Bradman might have done better in this generation so that is also a possibility we cannot ignore. Clive Lloyd scored a Century in the World Cup final against strong bowling lineup of Gary Gilmour and Dennis Lillee . He formed a West Indies side that can dominate the world for 2 decades. They have to change the Cricket rules to reduce the West Indies domination and no other leader made an effort to continue their success with changing cricket rules. Chanderpaul was a very good batsmen however, he did not give West Indies a path breaking contribution. So Clive Lloyd as Captain has to be given due credit and also a Batsmen who can score a good knock under pressure. We remember Alexander, Napoleon etc as Great Warriors due to their Competitive edge in their times we don’t compare them to present Army Soldiers or commanders who had the exposure to having better War Training.
 
P

PlayerComparisons

International Captain
CricketFan90s said:
You are right but we judge players based on their competitive edge they had in their generation. You also need to understand that older generation players did not have many advantages modern players have fitness trainings, diet etc. So we judge older players to modern players only based on their competitive edge. For example : How Bradman will play in modern game is debatable however, he had the intelligence and skill to outcompete players of his generation. It is their ability to outcompete players of their generation counts. May be with the training they give today Bradman might have done better in this generation so that is also a possibility we cannot ignore. Clive Lloyd scored a Century in the World Cup final against strong bowling lineup of Gary Gilmour and Dennis Lillee . He formed a West Indies side that can dominate the world for 2 decades. They have to change the Cricket rules to reduce the West Indies domination and no other leader made an effort to continue their success with changing cricket rules. Chanderpaul was a very good batsmen however, he did not give West Indies a path breaking contribution. So Clive Lloyd as Captain has to be given due credit and also a Batsmen who can score a good knock under pressure. We remember Alexander, Napoleon etc as Great Warriors due to their Competitive edge in their times we don’t compare them to present Army Soldiers or commanders who had the exposure to having better War Training.
Click to expand...
ok
 
CricAddict

CricAddict

International Coach
CricketFan90s said:
You are right but we judge players based on their competitive edge they had in their generation. You also need to understand that older generation players did not have many advantages modern players have fitness trainings, diet etc. So we judge older players to modern players only based on their competitive edge. For example : How Bradman will play in modern game is debatable however, he had the intelligence and skill to outcompete players of his generation. It is their ability to outcompete players of their generation counts. May be with the training they give today Bradman might have done better in this generation so that is also a possibility we cannot ignore. Clive Lloyd scored a Century in the World Cup final against strong bowling lineup of Gary Gilmour and Dennis Lillee . He formed a West Indies side that can dominate the world for 2 decades. They have to change the Cricket rules to reduce the West Indies domination and no other leader made an effort to continue their success with changing cricket rules. Chanderpaul was a very good batsmen however, he did not give West Indies a path breaking contribution. So Clive Lloyd as Captain has to be given due credit and also a Batsmen who can score a good knock under pressure. We remember Alexander, Napoleon etc as Great Warriors due to their Competitive edge in their times we don’t compare them to present Army Soldiers or commanders who had the exposure to having better War Training.
Click to expand...
Clive Lloyd is definitely under-rated in this forum. Not spoken about much at all.
 
CricketFan90s

CricketFan90s

State Vice-Captain
CricAddict said:
Clive Lloyd is definitely under-rated in this forum. Not spoken about much at all.
Click to expand...
I don’t like biased opinions which is a waste of time. Clive Lloyd scored a Century in 1975 World Cup final against Gary Gilmour, Jeff Thompson, Dennis Lillee 102 runs in 85 balls. He was very aggressive dominant person and it reflected in his team and led to them thrashing all countries for more than a decade.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Top