The value of a specialist keeper vs a wicketkeeper batsman

[TheJediBrah]

Disrespectfully you don’t either. You haven’t backed anything up you’ve said with any kind of data to prove why a specialist keeper who can’t bat is more useful than a competent wicketkeeper who can bat. Outside of talking about Bairstows poor form with bat & gloves which I agreed meant he should have been dropped.

If I did a poll between Pant & Foakes. Pant would win despite Foakes being a much better glove man. I showed you how better keepers didn’t out perform average keepers by significant margins with their dismissal rate or missed chance rates & that only recently keepers take on average ~2 dismissals an innings.

When I said you don't have any idea what you're talking about, it wasn't to do with any of this

Bit you're still wrong

How can you legislate for that though?

You can't with any accuracy. Butterfly effect. Dropping a catch could end up actually helping you in a roundabout way but you could never know.

 

[JBMAC]

There speaks a condescending gatekeeping geriatric.

Not condescending Sunshine, Just stating FACTS

 

[sayon basak]

But what if the batting is ****?? Pant is arguably our 2nd best batsman right now. He will play. But will you pick Saha (30 avg bat, Great keeper) in the team? India aren't picking Jurel (40 avg bat, Good keeper) when Pant plays...... And he most likely will play in England as just a batsman.

Saha is a better batsman than half of your top order. So, why not? Keep Pant as a batter alone and take Saha as the keeper.

 

[sledger]

Not condescending Sunshine, Just stating FACTS

Yeah look, if you disagree with the post that's fine, but there was no reason for the immediate and unnecessary ad hominem. You're better than that. Don't be a ****.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Yeah look, if you disagree with the post that's fine, but there was no reason for the immediate and unnecessary ad hominem. You're better than that. Don't be a ****.

You're being a bit precious. Making an (accurate) observation that you haven't played a lot of cricket at a decent level isn't some wild attack.

If he had have said "you're post is dumb because you are poor and have fetal alcohol syndrome", then fair enough, that's being a ****

 

[Cipher]

You're being a bit precious. Making an (accurate) observation that you haven't played a lot of cricket at a decent level isn't some wild attack.

If he had have said "you're post is dumb because you are poor and have fetal alcohol syndrome", then fair enough, that's being a ****

He’s not being precious at all he should be calling it out for what it is. Old mate pro just says he’s wrong because “I’m better at cricket than you.” It’s not an argument based on anything, there’s no FACTS, it’s thick headed elitist gatekeeping.

 

[JBMAC]

He’s not being precious at all he should be calling it out for what it is. Old mate pro just says he’s wrong because “I’m better at cricket than you.” It’s not an argument based on anything, there’s no FACTS, it’s thick headed elitist gatekeeping.

Dream on Sunshine

 

[Adders]

Well we may as well just shut CW down right now if the criteria for being allowed to voice an opinion on the game is restricted to those old enough to have watched the Don play and having played cricket at a professional level.

 

[Coronis]

Well we may as well just shut CW down right now if the criteria for being allowed to voice an opinion on the game is restricted to those old enough to have watched the Don play and having played cricket at a professional level.

tbf I wouldn’t mind reading only JBMAC posting in CC

 

[TheJediBrah]

Well we may as well just shut CW down right now if the criteria for being allowed to voice an opinion on the game is restricted to those old enough to have watched the Don play and having played cricket at a professional level.

Anyone is free to have an opinion, but likewise anyone is free to deride it if it's bad and uninformed

Freedom of speech =/= freedom from consequences

 

[TheJediBrah]

Ftr I dont even think what sledger said was really that off, JBMACs response was just so Alpha I had to go along with it

 

[Coronis]

 

[Adders]

Anyone is free to have an opinion, but likewise anyone is free to deride it if it's bad and uninformed

Freedom of speech =/= freedom from consequences

Sledgers opinion was neither bad nor uninformed though......it just differed to JB's (as you've alluded to) if ever there was a discussion on cricket where there is no right or wrong but a whole heap of grey this is definately one of them.

So yes, JB's response was absolutely condescending as is calling grown men "Sunshine" he totally should be called out on it.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Sledgers opinion was neither bad nor uninformed though......it just differed to JB's (as you've alluded to) if ever there was a discussion on cricket where there is no right or wrong but a whole heap of grey this is definately one of them.

So yes, JB's response was absolutely condescending as is calling grown men "Sunshine" he totally should be called out on it.

When you're righteous, condescending = alpha