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Barry Richards vs. Graeme Pollock

Barry Richards vs. Graeme Pollock: better bat?


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Dendarii

International Debutant
Pollock played little, but did great. As a 19 year old, he had debuted in and made two hundreds in Australia against a decent attack, already played a match winning inning with Eddie Barlow. At 21, he made one of the most distinguished hundreds in England by a touring Batsman. In 1966-67 he would make two fantastic hundreds against Australia, in 1970 he'd make the biggest hundred by any South African until Hashim Amla in 2012 I think.
Daryll Cullinan was the one to beat his score, making 275 against New Zealand in 1999, and that score was equalled by Gary Kirsten later that year against England. The player at the other end both times? Shaun Pollock.
 

SeamUp

International Coach
Daryll Cullinan was the one to beat his score, making 275 against New Zealand in 1999, and that score was equalled by Gary Kirsten later that year against England. The player at the other end both times? Shaun Pollock.
Daryll also became the youngest batsman to score a FC hundred. Taking it away from Graeme Pollock. Must have been so much pressure at the time on him because he was being compared to Barry Richards and then broke Graeme's record.
 

Coronis

Hall of Fame Member
Barry averaged more in Currie Cup cricket. A tick under 60, whilst Graeme was 54.

But it has to be Graeme Pollock. Not just because he got the chance to perform at test level but because that's the feeling in SA who saw both regularly. And that's taking nothing away from classy quality of Barry.

Graeme got 11 FC hundreds before his 21st birthday. Comfortably the most by a South African. He was a prodigy and performed to it.

I loved this little snippet from Luke Alfred;

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Lets also not forget the career length disparity. Pollock made his debut in 60/61 at the age of 16 and finished up in 86/87 at the age of 44, playing in every single season in between, still scoring tons and at a good average in his last few years. (in fact funnily enough he seemed to have a mid career slump and recover from it like Tendulkar) Richards on the other hand debuted in 64/65 at 19, and finished up in 82/83 at 37. However those raw numbers are misleading. He stopped playing in SA after the 75/76 season and finished up in England in 78 (age 33) season, before returning 3 and a half years later for a final two seasons in SA. At that point unsuprisingly, he was far from the cricketer he once was.
 

SeamUp

International Coach
Lets also not forget the career length disparity. Pollock made his debut in 60/61 at the age of 16 and finished up in 86/87 at the age of 44, playing in every single season in between, still scoring tons and at a good average in his last few years. (in fact funnily enough he seemed to have a mid career slump and recover from it like Tendulkar) Richards on the other hand debuted in 64/65 at 19, and finished up in 82/83 at 37. However those raw numbers are misleading. He stopped playing in SA after the 75/76 season and finished up in England in 78 (age 33) season, before returning 3 and a half years later for a final two seasons in SA. At that point unsuprisingly, he was far from the cricketer he once was.
Barry's peak in Currie Cup cricket was probably higher than Graeme's. But I am in full agreement that over the course of their careers Graeme > Barry. Both are geniuses though.

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Coronis

Hall of Fame Member

Dendarii

International Debutant
Daryll also became the youngest batsman to score a FC hundred. Taking it away from Graeme Pollock. Must have been so much pressure at the time on him because he was being compared to Barry Richards and then broke Graeme's record.
He also made a first-class triple century, which Pollock never did, and for a long time that was the highest score in South African domestic cricket. That was in 1993, so with South Africa having just made their return to international cricket I'm sure there was pressure on him to be their next great test batsman .
 

kyear2

Hall of Fame Member
Who was the better bat? I understand Pollock played more Tests, but I’m interested in absolute talent: suppose they both had sizable Test careers, who would have been better?
It's easily Barry.

He was hailed by no less than Bradman as the greatest opener of all time. "At least the equal of Hutton and Hobbs"

Lille rated him only behind Viv and Sobers among batsmen he bowled to and in the same tier.

Procter, Gooch, Dickie Bird called him the batsmen period they've ever seen.

Pollock himself said the two best batsmen he had seen in and after his career were Richards and Sobers.

Mark Nicholas ranks him behind only Bradman, Sobers and Tendulkar. Kimber notes that as a batsman, he's top 10 all time.

Bob Willis, John Snow Jeff Thompson called him the best opener they've bowled to, all ahead of Gavaskar.

Barry was acknowledged as the best batsman in the world from.1970, until his namesake took the title in '76. He was the best opener of the '70's, his record vs the best bowlers of his day is unparalleled, triples and doubles vs Snow, Lillee, Procter et al. His record against touring test teams is in the 70's, his record in WSC was comparable only to Viv and Chappell.

Pollock never faced bowlers of the quality that Barry did, definitely not in tests, which shows the overrated nature and status of.

Barry was a Colossus, 9 hundreds before lunch, 300 in a day, the only batsman capable of keeping up with Vivian on the rampage, especially against quality bowling.

His comps were Richards and Sobers, to many his potential was Bradman.

His accolades were many, he makes Willis's all time team, the Cricinfo 2nd XI, Crowe called him the greatest lost war opener, the named him in his 2nd All Time Test team, Gower rates him the 15th best cricketer of all time, if we can be sure of 6 players that we know for sure made Bradman's all time team, they were Barry, himself, Tendulkar, Sobers, Lillee and O'Reilly.

There's a thread here by @fredfertang , how good was Barry Richards, I recommend to give it a read.

Many here goes against Barry because he bettered players that they preferred and for the fact that I'm the one who pushes him, but that should say more about them than Barry.

He was the most tested and accomplished opening batsman vs great fast bowling in helpful conditions. Yes Hutton took on Lindwall and Miller, and bats alongside Barry in my AT XI, but Barry took on Lillee, Thompson (in his actual prime), Procter, Snow and Willis. He's the only post war batsman to combine a perfect defensive technique and the ability to consistently destroy quality attacks in all conditions. He could do things that literally no one else could.
 

Northerner

U19 12th Man
This is a very very close comparison, and only difference i can go on is that Graeme played more tests. so more proven at test level so probably have to go with him for that reason, toss of a coin for me,
 

Johan

International Coach
What does "over career" mean? Test career?
FC career I reckon.

Lets also not forget the career length disparity. Pollock made his debut in 60/61 at the age of 16 and finished up in 86/87 at the age of 44, playing in every single season in between, still scoring tons and at a good average in his last few years. (in fact funnily enough he seemed to have a mid career slump and recover from it like Tendulkar) Richards on the other hand debuted in 64/65 at 19, and finished up in 82/83 at 37. However those raw numbers are misleading. He stopped playing in SA after the 75/76 season and finished up in England in 78 (age 33) season, before returning 3 and a half years later for a final two seasons in SA. At that point unsuprisingly, he was far from the cricketer he once was.
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Coronis

Hall of Fame Member
Pollock himself said the two best batsmen he had seen in and after his career were Richards and Sobers.
tbf, Pollock wasn’t watching himself. iirc there’s an amusing anecdote from Chappell(?) about how someone in the slips said in regards to Barry that they were facing the best batsman in the world, and he’s down at the other end of the pitch. Unfortunately, it was Graeme on strike who heard them and proceeded to blast his 274.
 

SeamUp

International Coach
tbf, Pollock wasn’t watching himself. iirc there’s an amusing anecdote from Chappell(?) about how someone in the slips said in regards to Barry that they were facing the best batsman in the world, and he’s down at the other end of the pitch. Unfortunately, it was Graeme on strike who heard them and proceeded to blast his 274.
 

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