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**Official** English Football Season 2024/25

Ali TT

International Captain
I got to ruptured intestine and had to stop reading but fingers crossed for him.

Over in the US a 20yo female footballer, Savy King, collapsed on the pitch in LA and had to have heart surgery but sounds like she's recovering.
 

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
I mean it's the kind of injury that could have happened at more or less any time. I don't think the offside rules really have anything to do with it.

Hope he makes a quick and full recovery though, obviously.
I see the BBC have now altered their article to emphasise the offside part. I get that it could happen anytime, but it didn't need to be this time. It was a clear offside and the flag should go up. It also gets the ball back in play quicker than wasting 30 seconds on something that was never going to count.
 

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I don’t think that argument really adds up, if the flag goes up straight away then a different sequence of play happens instead and maybe someone gets injured during it. I would happily ride the VAR Committed Attempted Murder wagon if it helped get it scrapped, but that’s obviously a losing battle.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Yeah, I mean the underlying logic is "but for the thing, the bad thing would not have happened", and when taken to abstraction you could probably use this sort of reasoning to change whatever rule you wanted.
 

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
Yeah, I mean the underlying logic is "but for the thing, the bad thing would not have happened", and when taken to abstraction you could probably use this sort of reasoning to change whatever rule you wanted.
But in this case, did the original 'thing' need to happen? All I'm arguing for is a flag going up immediately for a clear offside, not wasting everybody's time (and in this case risking injury) by waiting an extra 30 seconds to do so.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Yeah I mean wanting the rule changed if you think it's no good is a perfectly valid position to hold. I just think the injury-related argument you've put forward in relation to it is a non-sequitur.
 

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
Yeah I mean wanting the rule changed if you think it's no good is a perfectly valid position to hold. I just think the injury-related argument you've put forward in relation to it is a non-sequitur.
Possibly, but the most intense part of a football pitch is around the goal, where players (as shown on Sunday) will risk injury more than anywhere else to score/defend. I just think that incident was the perfect example of unnecessary risk being imposed on players.
 

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Look, I hope to god Awoniyi gets better, and I've done plenty of stupid things under the influence of adrenaline while playing competitive sport. But ultimately, if you launch yourself into face-first into a goalpost, it's nobody else's fault if you get hurt.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
The whole notion of voluntarily participating in contact sport necessarily exposes one to "unnecessary" harm tbh. I get the point Molehill is making here, and if there was a body of sustained evidence that showed a noticeable correlation between the existence/application of this rule and serious injury I'd be inclined to agree. But so far as I can see this is an isolated incident whereby the occurrence of a serious injury, the kind that could potentially occur at any moment, incidentally involves the offside rule.
 

dontcloseyoureyes

BARNES OUT
I realise it's a significantly more serious injury but this is not close to the first time this has happened. Last season Stones popped a hammy and was out for months (big shock) after a very similar delayed flag. I'm with MH on this one.
 

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
I realise it's a significantly more serious injury but this is not close to the first time this has happened. Last season Stones popped a hammy and was out for months (big shock) after a very similar delayed flag. I'm with MH on this one.
Yep, the Wolves keeper was stretchered off 2 years ago against Liverpool in similar circumstances after Salah scored and it was disallowed. Even Klopp at the time said it wasn't a good look.

I'm all for letting play go if it's close, but none of these were and should've been flagged straight away. We all know when it's offside and they're playing on for the sake of it, it's just a load of wasted time and unnecessary risk.
 

Skipper Pup

First Class Debutant
I'm usually a big advocate for merit when it comes to awards like Balon D'Or but there's just something nostalgic about watching Lamine Yamal play football.

On the numbers and overall contribution there are certainly others that deserve it more however, I'd have zero issue if he wins it. That sort of style and grace at 17yo is unheard of. He is box office and undeniably growing the game. Anyone who enjoys the sport should be hoping and praying his career is injury-free because it's going to be a hell of a ride.

If it has to be one of Yamal, Dembele, or Raphinha then the kid is the clear choice.
 

Skipper Pup

First Class Debutant
My crack at a final EPL team of the season (433 formation to reflect the champions formation) :

GK: Sels
RB: Livramento
CB: Konate
CB: Van Dijk (c)
LB: Robinson
DM: Gravenberch (YPoTS)
CM: Mac Alliser
CM: Caicedo
RW: Salah (PoTS)
ST: Isak
LW: Cunha

Not many standouts on the left wing that was a tough spot. Special mention to Rogers, Aina, Fernandes, Timber, Cucurella, Damsgaard, Wood, Diaz and Murphy.
 

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