Kohli's India vs Ganguly's India

[subshakerz]

Have to switch tactics...

Australia was even flatter in the 2000s and you rate Punter's bumass over Root

For now, let's see where Root end up.

 

[Johan]

Shami's average in England will be quite respectable in England after this series.

Yeah 50 is a respectable average for an Indian pacer not named Bumrah

 

[Xix2565]

Check Kumbles record in India in the 90s when it was relatively spin friendly. Now imagine he had DRS.

And? What makes you think a team getting done in occasionally by the likes of Boje, Clarke, Mendis and such in tough conditions can consistently handle Ash/Jaddu?

 

[Johan]

Root's bumass won't survive Bumrah. Just hope that he doesn't get outscored by first timer in Eng Jaiswal.

Y'all said the same in 2021, we're chilling.

 

[Thala_0710]

And? What makes you think a team getting done in occasionally by the likes of Boje, Clarke, Mendis and such in tough conditions can consistently handle Ash/Jaddu?

The latter team got done by Ajaz, Santner, Root, O'Keefe etc too

 

[Xix2565]

Kumble and especially Harbhajan won't match Ashwin-Jadeja but they will get closer certainly.
And yeah, are Kohli and Rahul and Rahane better players of spin than Sachin and Sehwag and Laxman? You tell me

You tell me how bashing mediocrity on batting pitches makes the Ganguly side substantially better.

 

[Thala_0710]

Y'all said the same in 2021, we're chilling.

The series you only managed to draw due to a postponement?

 

[Johan]

The series you only managed to draw due to a postponement?

The series you only managed to draw because we had the worst English team since the second world war?

 

[Thala_0710]

You tell me how bashing mediocrity on batting pitches makes the Ganguly side substantially better.

The same way getting mediocrity out on turners makes Ashwin-Jadeja better.

 

[subshakerz]

And? What makes you think a team getting done in occasionally by the likes of Boje, Clarke, Mendis and such in tough conditions can consistently handle Ash/Jaddu?

When did Mendis conquer India in India? Anyways just a couple of incidents in over a decade doesn't show anything. I am talking Kumbles entire home record in the 90s.

 

[Thala_0710]

The series you only managed to draw because we had the worst English team since the second world war?

I think you're forgetting just how mediocre England was in the past. That team still had Root, Anderson and co.

 

[subshakerz]

You tell me how bashing mediocrity on batting pitches makes the Ganguly side substantially better.

Mediocrities like Murali and Warne yeah.

 

[Johan]

I think you're forgetting just how mediocre England was in the past. That team still had Root, Anderson and co.

nah that was the absolute worst, no one in that side could hold a bat except Root, I'd take 90s England over that monstrosity.

 

[Thala_0710]

nah that was the absolute worst, no one in that side could hold a bat except Root, I'd take 90s England over that monstrosity.

Anyway, watching Karun Nair bash Archer into the ground should be fun

 

[Johan]

Anyway, watching Karun Nair bash Archer into the ground should be fun

Archer? playing Test Cricket? lmfao

 

[Xix2565]

The latter team got done by Ajaz, Santner, Root, O'Keefe etc too

The same way getting mediocrity out on turners makes Ashwin-Jadeja better.

When did Mendis conquer India in India? Anyways just a couple of incidents in over a decade doesn't show anything. I am talking Kumbles entire home record in the 90s.

Mediocrities like Murali and Warne yeah.

On much worse pitches, and only NZ in 2024 actually won. I think if we're going to act like spinners get wickets for fun during Kohli's era, we can give credit to the team that generally dominated then regardless of what opposition bowlers managed. It's not like the past spinners were notably better outside of 2 names who both were bad on batting friendly pitches. (I used Mendis as an example of how the Indian side failed against spin in general occasionally.)

 

[Thala_0710]

Archer? playing Test Cricket? lmfao

You're not playing him?
So it's going to be what Atkinson, Carse, Wood and Woakes with Bashir?

 

[Johan]

You're not playing him?
So it's going to be what Atkinson, Carse, Wood and Woakes with Bashir?

Cook/Woakes should make quick work of this Indian batting, Carse would too, If Archer is ever playing Test Cricket again it should be the 2025 Ashes

 

[Thala_0710]

Cook/Woakes should make quick work of this Indian batting, Carse would too, If Archer is ever playing Test Cricket again it should be the 2025 Ashes

Sam Cook? Really?

 

[Johan]

Sam Cook? Really?

Yeah, I think you underestimate how inept this India can look to just decent vertical movement.