Cricket's most over rated players

[Prince EWS]

It's called being a batsman

Lol, beaten to it.

 

[Line and Length]

I regard Victor Trumper as being somewhat over rated - especially as an opener where he averaged just 33.0
He played in an era when players such as Jackson, Ranjitsinhji and Macartney all had superior averages yet he was the only player from that era that CW rated in the 2022 Top 50 batsmen poll - coming in at 31. He and Clem Hill were the only players with sub 40 averages in that list.
I recall reading that Trumper's reputation was greatly enhanced by one photograph.

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Yet another thread with a clear Answer...

 

[ankitj]

I regard Victor Trumper as being somewhat over rated - especially as an opener where he averaged just 33.0
He played in an era when players such as Jackson, Ranjitsinhji and Macartney all had superior averages yet he was the only player from that era that CW rated in the 2022 Top 50 batsmen poll - coming in at 31. He and Clem Hill were the only players with sub 40 averages in that list.
I recall reading that Trumper's reputation was greatly enhanced by one photograph.

Of the many "overrated players" threads, you chose to bump the one where Jadeja was not mentioned, right?

 

[trundler]

I regard Victor Trumper as being somewhat over rated - especially as an opener where he averaged just 33.0
He played in an era when players such as Jackson, Ranjitsinhji and Macartney all had superior averages yet he was the only player from that era that CW rated in the 2022 Top 50 batsmen poll - coming in at 31. He and Clem Hill were the only players with sub 40 averages in that list.
I recall reading that Trumper's reputation was greatly enhanced by one photograph.

Jackson never played outside England, Ranji only had a couple of good series and Macartney's run as a great batsman came post War. It makes sense to rate Trumper over those guys but certainly not Hill so he probably is a little overrated.

 

[Coronis]

He is definitely overrated as an opener (which is where people always try to pick him for XIs) and overrated compared to Hill. Generally by public opinion he is seen as far superior to Hill, which is not the case imo.

 

[Starfighter]

He is definitely overrated as an opener (which is where people always try to pick him for XIs) and overrated compared to Hill. Generally by public opinion he is seen as far superior to Hill, which is not the case imo.

I think it's a case of flashy attractive players being rated higher, and the fact he was capable of producing innings of genuine brilliance, which lead people to ignore that his overall output wasn't exceptional even for the time.

 

[ataraxia]

He is definitely overrated as an opener (which is where people always try to pick him for XIs) and overrated compared to Hill. Generally by public opinion he is seen as far superior to Hill, which is not the case imo.

Yes much of the public have considered opinions vis-a-vis Trumper and Hill.

 

[Socerer 01]

I think it's a case of flashy attractive players being rated higher, and the fact he was capable of producing innings of genuine brilliance, which lead people to ignore that his overall output wasn't exceptional even for the time.

hmmmm where have we seen this before i wonder

 

[Silver Silva]

Wow people in 2007 thought Graeme Smith was overrated , that aged like milk.

 

[Coronis]

Wow people in 2007 thought Graeme Smith was overrated , that aged like milk.

I was also curious about that - how highly was he actually rated at the time for them to feel that way?

 

[Line and Length]

Of the many "overrated players" threads, you chose to bump the one where Jadeja was not mentioned, right?

I found this one dating back to 2007 and decided it needed a boost.

 

[capt_Luffy]

I regard Victor Trumper as being somewhat over rated - especially as an opener where he averaged just 33.0
He played in an era when players such as Jackson, Ranjitsinhji and Macartney all had superior averages yet he was the only player from that era that CW rated in the 2022 Top 50 batsmen poll - coming in at 31. He and Clem Hill were the only players with sub 40 averages in that list.
I recall reading that Trumper's reputation was greatly enhanced by one photograph.

Trumper averaged 48 in the middle order..... That's insane for the time. Jackson had one good series, MaCartney mostly scored post War and Ranji is a fair bit older (who generally gets rated higher or the same). If anything, I think he is underrated here.

 

[Bolo.]

Wow people in 2007 thought Graeme Smith was overrated , that aged like milk.

He started his career young and very well. I can't really remember how highly he was rated, but probably very highly. Was in a big form slump at the time this thread was created.

 

[Silver Silva]

I was also curious about that - how highly was he actually rated at the time for them to feel that way?

I had look at his stats in 2006 and 2007, he was going through a tough time which might be the cause for the overrated tag..

Between 2006 and 2007 he averaged 31.81 from 17 Tests.

Whatever misconceptions about Smith was surely put to bed the following year,
2008 would change the perception of Graeme Smith forever in the annals of Test Cricket.

World record opening partnership with Neil Mckenzie

Most test runs by an Opener in a Calender year

Captaining South Africa to series wins in England and Australia for the first time in their history.

That was Graeme Smith's greatest year.

 

[Nintendo]

Has to be stokes doesn't it? He's a fantastic player but I think his semi consistent insane performances make people forget that overall he averages 35/32.

Edit: Taking this as current and not all time, FYI.

 

[Silver Silva]

Has to be stokes doesn't it? He's a fantastic player but I think his semi consistent insane performances make people forget that overall he averages 35/32.

Yeah, take his performance vs India in the last test series ..

It was just swept under the carpet ..
Any other player would have got a bashing if they averaged 19 with the bat in a 5 match test series.

 

[howitzer]

He started his career young and very well. I can't really remember how highly he was rated, but probably very highly. Was in a big form slump at the time this thread was created.

Yeah the whole Smith thing in this thread is an excellent example of why it's dangerous to judge players whose careers are still active, particularly when they are still fairly young. Smith was only 26 at the time. If this thread had been made a year and a half later then Kallis would have just completed his only real form slump between 1999 and the end of his career and would probably have been someone getting beaten up on by the forum.

 

[howitzer]

Watson a tad over-rated imo, but I think it stems from the hope (more than expectation) that he might kick on and be a solid test/ ODI all rounder.

Gonna cop some heat for this, but I seriously think Ian Bell is hugely overrated. He looks technically compact, but I just don't see him kicking on and becoming as good a player as many rate him. Unfortunately, from what I've seen of him, he just seems to find ways to get out when either things are tough or just when he's starting to blossom. For England's sake, I hope that he gets over that part of his game. I know he's scored some good runs from time to time, and I accept that my view of him is based largely on his efforts against Australia.

That comical run-out in the ODI at Brisbane this year when Clarke had his back to the stumps and back-handed them down with Bell mid-pitch, for me, sums up his career. He seems to find ways to get out.

Burgey in his more generous era.

 

[honestbharani]

Burgey in his more generous era.

Scary how similar my comments on Ollie Pope V Zak Crawley were to this as well.