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England test tour of Pakistan December 2022

morgieb

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Getting to 500 despite not going even close to a full allotment of overs (the other 500 in a day totals were off well over 100 overs). Mental.
 

Ashes81

State Vice-Captain
I'm lost for words to be honest - that was absolutely brutal. Over 500 in a day and off only 75 overs. Another 15 overs, we'd have got to well over 600

Yes the pitch was like a road, yes the bowling wasn't great but that is still some effort by us - truly unbelievable
 

srbhkshk

International Captain
I see no good reason why England should declare anything short of all out or end of day 3 - whichever comes earlier.
 

Starfighter

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I see no good reason why England should declare anything short of all out or end of day 3 - whichever comes earlier.
If they keep going the way they are, they'll be all out for 775 and be able to have half an hour at Pakistan before tea. That's only partly a joke.
 

daddy pig enjoyer

Cricket Spectator
Hate to be the sand in the vaseline, but this really isn't test cricket, is it?

C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas la guerre: c'est de la folie and all that.
That quotation was a description of the charge of the Light Brigade during the Battle of Balaclava. That military action arose from a miscommunication, was a disaster, and has become enduringly synonymous with hubris and failure.

Playing test cricket as England have been in the later part of this year might seem hubristic, but it is deliberate and has been extremely successful. This might not be war, but it seems a bit hard to argue that it’s folly.
 

srbhkshk

International Captain
If they keep going the way they are, they'll be all out for 775 and be able to have half an hour at Pakistan before tea. That's only partly a joke.
Not a joke at all me thinks - if they survive 40 more overs, they have 750+ in the bag - possibly more.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
That quotation was a description of the charge of the Light Brigade during the Battle of Balaclava. That military action arose from a miscommunication, was a disaster, and has become enduringly synonymous with hubris and failure.

Playing test cricket as England have been in the later part of this year might seem hubristic, but it is deliberate and has been extremely successful. This might not be war, but it seems a bit hard to argue that it’s folly.
I'd always understood that, in context, "folie" was best translated as "madness".

Which, I'd suggest, it was.
 

Starfighter

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Not a joke at all me thinks - if they survive 40 more overs, they have 750+ in the bag - possibly more.
They'll likely declare before then IMO. That said I hate unneeded declarations, like when Williamson declared immediately after his own double with de Grandhomme on 74* off 53 (to win the match with 130 overs to spare). Why not score as many as possible with this much time available?
 

Sunil1z

International Regular
Have to give lots of credit to ECB for roping in Mccullum . He has completely changed the mindset of English batsmen . Perth wicket is also flat pitch . You don’t see Australia scoring 500 runs in a day .
This approach may fail on tougher wickets or against better attacks . But England were struggling before 2021 June even on flat tracks .
 

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