*Official* New Zealand in Australia 2019/20

[stephen]

Honestly New Zealand could have been 5/300 by now if they hadn't thrown their wickets away. It was an insipid batting performance, particularly from the top order who largely gave their wickets away. CDG's run out the worst of the lot but so much laziness all round.

 

[Frost]

Open with spin

 

[NUFAN]

Is that really a wicket for Lyon. What law is it which suggests that is a stumping?

 

[thierry henry]

Tbh if you bat like NZ have today, then just about anything is a bowler's wicket



Well yeah but the bloke has a broken thumb. Beyond anything else it's not like he's going to score any runs.

No I mean the ‘stumping’ off the middle of the bat. I understand why, just seems weird.

 

[thierry henry]

Is that really a wicket for Lyon. What law is it which suggests that is a stumping?

I think basically if you’re not trying to run, it’s a stumping. Personally it seems cleaner to me to say it’s a run out if it hits the bat or batsman

 

[Spark]

Is that really a wicket for Lyon. What law is it which suggests that is a stumping?

Don't see why not. The law makes no reference to the batsman having hit it or not and he wasn't attempting a run.

 

[Mike5181]

after deriding defensive batting as inferior on a deck with variable bounce this morning mark waugh is whining that a #10 isn't playing the right attacking shots.

spud commentator. at least he's stopped sooking the pitch is flat.

O'Keeffe laughing like an idiot at everything is a close second for worst commentator.

 

[thierry henry]

Now we’re gonna see Warner and/or Smith finally tonne up innit

 

[GoodAreasShane]

It is so perfect that on the day TJB gets released from CricketWeb prison Lyon takes another quality 5-for

Move over Marnus, this is the best timing of the Australian cricket summer

 

[stephen]

Now we’re gonna see Warner and/or Smith finally tonne up innit

Nah the stakes aren't high enough for Smith to bother with scoring a ton. He saves them for the big moments in the biggest series'.

 

[sunilz]

So NZ couldn't save follow-on in each of the 3 test . When did it occur last time in a series of atleast 3 tests not involving BAN and ZIM ?

 

[NUFAN]

Don't see why not. The law makes no reference to the batsman having hit it or not and he wasn't attempting a run.

You dont have to be attempting a run to be run out. An example is a when the non striker is just out of his crease.

I totally get what you are saying though, I just find it curious.

 

[Spark]

You dont have to be attempting a run to be run out. An example is a when the non striker is just out of his crease.

I totally get what you are saying though, I just find it curious.

Yeah you do:

39.1 Out Stumped

39.1.1 The striker is out Stumped, except as in 39.3, if

a ball which is delivered is not called No ball

and he/she is out of his/her ground, other than as in 39.3.1

and he/she has not attempted a run when his/her wicket is fairly put down by the wicket-keeper without the intervention of another fielder. Note, however Laws 25.6.2 and 25.6.5 (Dismissal and conduct of a batsman and his/her runner) and 27.3 (Position of wicket-keeper).

39.1.2 The striker is out Stumped if all the conditions of 39.1.1 are satisfied, even though a decision of Run out would be justified.

Basically stumped > run out if both apply. In the same way that bowled > caught/lbw.

EDIT: The non-striker example doesn't work - the point of backing up is that you are attempting a run and trying to steal a few extra metres early.

 

[Immenso]

NZ's highest score of the series but maybe their worst effort yet?

 

[Gnske]

It is so perfect that on the day TJB gets released from CricketWeb prison Lyon takes another quality 5-for

Move over Marnus, this is the best timing of the Australian cricket summer

He'll beg for another week.

 

[Immenso]

I've seen Javed Miandad run out Jeff Crowe from second slip while he was being dozey during and LBW appeal, should that have been a stumping?

 

[Spark]

NZ's highest score of the series but maybe their worst effort yet?

Today certainly. Given the platform they were given by the openers they should have been getting 300 at least.

 

[quincywagstaff]

So NZ couldn't save follow-on in each of the 3 test . When did it occur last time in a series of atleast 3 tests not involving BAN and ZIM ?

In terms of a 200 plus run lead in 3 consecutive Tests in a series, I can't think of another time Australia has done this in a series off the top of my head.

Even against as bad a side as the West Indies in 00/01, Australia only managed it twice in a 5 Test series.

Actually, just found middle 3 Tests of 02/03 Ashes when Australia did it.

 

[quincywagstaff]

Today certainly. Given the platform they were given by the openers they should have been getting 300 at least.

Yep. Performances like this just make me further convinced that if NZ had toured Oz last summer against a weakened lineup they still would've lost.

 

[NUFAN]

Yeah you do:



Basically stumped > run out if both apply. In the same way that bowled > caught/lbw.

EDIT: The non-striker example doesn't work - the point of backing up is that you are attempting a run and trying to steal a few extra metres early.

Thanks for showing the ruling. So if Henry took an additional step forward after hitting the ball and then went back, hed be runout since he was attempting a run.