Spark
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50/50? He almost certainly will play the 1st test in India.
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*Official* Australia vs Pakistan in England
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Black_Warrior
Cricketer Of The Year
Yeah sadly.. And they also need an opener to play with Katich.. Surely a nation with such a rich cricketing history and highly acclaimed first class system can produce a proper opener better than Shane Watson? Yeah he has been decent so far but how long can you continue with bits and pieces players like that?
Avada Kedavra
Banned
How is it baiting?
Australia have accused Amir of ball tampering.
FACT
Australia got a lot more decisions in favour of them.
FACT
Pakistan didn't have two of their best players.
FACT
Which one of them is irrelevant to the thread?
Spark
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As has been said many times in this thread... Hughes, or Rogers. We have plenty of good openers going around.
Okay, I'll bite and put the XI I want to see going into India.
Katich
Hughes
Clarke
Ponting
Watson
Smith/Khawaja
Haddin/Paine
Johnson
Hauritz
Hilfenhaus
Bollinger
With Harris/Siddle or a youngun to go in if any of those three continue their merry ways.
Okay, I'll bite and put the XI I want to see going into India.
Katich
Hughes
Clarke
Ponting
Watson
Smith/Khawaja
Haddin/Paine
Johnson
Hauritz
Hilfenhaus
Bollinger
With Harris/Siddle or a youngun to go in if any of those three continue their merry ways.
Black_Warrior
Cricketer Of The Year
You want to play Smith at 6?? Is he that good?? He smashed Kaneria all around the park but Indian spinners at home wont be that easy.
Spark
Global Moderator
Put in that way it doesn't sound so bad (although contentious), but the way you posted it was much more extreme i.e. "repeating Sydney" - that is a quite obvious bait - and thrown in with truly ridiculous statements such as "Pakistan deserved to rated higher than Australia" and the "players they can't face" jibe (which is also quite wrong in the listing)
Spark
Global Moderator
He's better than North. That's the point.
Fusion
Global Moderator
Aus have already started crying about Amir tampering with the ball...its what they do to players they can't face...Murali,Ajmal,Amir
Link?
Spark
Global Moderator
There's a link earlier on in this thread (think andyc posted it) but it was generally agreed that there wasn't really anything in it, he was just a little clumsy.
Tbf, he owned Pakistan in Australia
His and Katich's major problem is that they rarely convert good starts into big hundreds
Spark
Global Moderator
Hardly anyone in our team is good at that
Black_Warrior
Cricketer Of The Year
Yep..thats what a proper batsman does... Thats why Australia need a proper batsman...Talented bits and pieces players like Watson do well in one or two series but when people wrongly believe that they are a long term solution, thats when the problem starts
Watson is faaaaaaaaaaaaaar better than a bits and pieces player
Fusion
Global Moderator
Lol. People are accusing him of ball tampering based on that?!? If that's ball tampering, then practically every spinner in the world and most fast bowlers are going to be suspended.
Avada Kedavra
Banned
Maybe you deliberately missed the
after the Sydney comment just so you could gain brownie points by calling others names?And I think Pak deserve to be rated higher than Australia.Not sure what your problem is with that.If you think that's ridiculous,that's your opinion.Maybe you expect everyone to dance to your tunes in a discussion forum but I don't see it that way
Pakistan should have beaten Australia a good many times now.That they havn't has been more to do with their own mental fragilities than Australia being more skilfull.Pakistan's bowling attack is much better than Australia's and with Ricky Ponting fading their batting isn't all that either.With Yousuf and Younis back you could make a case for Pakistan being a better side.
And about the tampering - it's always Australia who seem to have problems with bowlers.Funnily enough,it's always bowlers that they don't do well against.They did it to Ajmal in Abu Dhabi last year and now Amir.That is not a bait, it is a FACT.
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Wrong
Not a hanging offence by any means but that's blatant and unbelievably stupid
I'll put it down to naivety but he deserves a rap over the knuckles
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They beat Australia for the first time in 15 years (to tie what is technically a home series) and they're a better side and deserve to be rated higher? As you said, it's your opinion but don't be surprised if you're called out....
And I think Pak deserve to be rated higher than Australia.Not sure what your problem is with that.If you think that's ridiculous,that's your opinion.Maybe you expect everyone to dance to your tunes in a discussion forum but I don't see it that way
Pakistan should have beaten Australia a good many times now.That they havn't has been more to do with their own mental fragilities than Australia being more skilfull.Pakistan's bowling attack is much better than Australia's and with Ricky Ponting fading their batting isn't all that either.With Yousuf and Younis back you could make a case for Pakistan being a better side.
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Avada Kedavra
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I am talking about the current set up of the two sides.As for the bolded part- it flatters Australia to say that.They have lost to one of the most inexperienced Pakistani sides ever at a place where Ponting's never won a series as captain.I expect the Pak side that beat Aus had what,200 tests between them?Maybe less.Ricky alone has about 130.
1.Butt
2.Azhar
3.Younus
4.Yousuf
5.Umar Akmal
6.Fawad Alam/Amin
7.Kamran
8.Amir
9.Asif
10.Gul
11.Kaneria
Pakistan's bowling attack is unquestionably better than Australia's.In fact if you were to make a combined bowling attack of the two sides,it would probably be 3-1 in Pakistan's favour.
With Yousuf and YK back the batting doesn't look bad either.Australia on the other hand have been off colour for ages.What have they won apart from beating WI and Pak at home?Lost to India away,lost the Ashes,lost to SA at home..will probably lose this Ashes as well.