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Which team's alltime XI is best?

Which alltime XI would enjoy the most success against its counterparts?


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The Sean

Cricketer Of The Year
What a match from Punter, his quality and fearless strokeplay against fast bowling has always been his hallmark and I don't think he's ever shown it more brilliantly than in those two innings against a great attack. The Lillee-McGrath-Spofforth pace trio tore into the WI batting to give Australia a very handy first innings lead, which was turned into an absolutely unassailable one by the inevitably Bradman-led second innings onslaught.

I was hoping the Windies would turn it on in their second dig to give us a run chase to remember and send the match right down to the wire, but when Bob Simpson turns out better figures than anything SK Warne has managed all series (and in Barbados no less), you know it's probably not your Test match...

So the Aussies have clinched the series, but it's 4-4 overall, and there are still bragging rights to be played for with one match remaining.
 

Matt79

Global Moderator
"Windies have no answers and no heart" - McGrath

Awesome stuff by the Aussies - Ponting had a huge match, Simpson was a solid in with the bat in the first innings and a more than useful spin option in the second. Bradman made up for a first innings failure in spades in the second innings. The Windies were very very disappointing with the bat it must be said.

In addition to the headline quote, McGrath was quoted tonight as saying that he feels the Aussies now have a definite mental edge over the Windies batsman. Ponting also questioned the captaincy and intent the Windies displayed during Australia's innings "honestly, the series was on the line there, and they definitely went away for a couple of sessions, and seemed to resort to just bowling short stuff without having any plan to take the wickets they needed - I thought they definitely lost the plot a bit there."
 
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JBH001

International Regular
Let's send out the same side. Richards is really, really due for a big one. Thoughts?

Jeez, everyone apart from Hunte is due for a big one!
Even Lara and Sobers, iirc, have only contributed a few 50's between them.

But I agree, enough of chopping and changing the side.

So the same side for the 5th test, but...perhaps we should swap Weekes and Viv?
 

Burgey

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"Windies have no answers and no heart" - McGrath

Awesome stuff by the Aussies - Ponting had a huge match, Simpson was a solid in with the bat in the first innings and a more than useful spin option in the second. Bradman made up for a first innings failure in spades in the second innings. The Windies were very very disappointing with the bat it must be said.

In addition to the headline quote, McGrath was quoted tonight as saying that he feels the Aussies now have a definite mental edge over the Windies batsman. Ponting also questioned the captaincy and intent the Windies displayed during Australia's innings "honestly, the series was on the line there, and they definitely went away for a couple of sessions, and seemed to resort to just bowling short stuff without having any plan to take the wickets they needed - I thought they definitely lost the plot a bit there."
Very good mate.
 

adharcric

International Coach
Let's see if a Windies side fired up by McGrath's trash talk can strike back at the end of this tour. All set to go at the Bourda.
 
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SJS

Hall of Fame Member
While its understandable that opinions would be split on this issue because of the huge nmber of terrific players the game has produced in 130 years, I am amazed that England does not find many supporters.
 

JBMAC

State Captain
While its understandable that opinions would be split on this issue because of the huge nmber of terrific players the game has produced in 130 years, I am amazed that England does not find many supporters.
Interesting point maybe as well as a Pakistan vs India Super Series a SUPER Ashes Series could be run???:cool: :unsure: :unsure:
 

adharcric

International Coach
Australia in West Indies - 5th Test - Bourda (Guyana)

Code:
[CENTER]Australia 1st Innings[/CENTER]
RB Simpson                          b Marshall       	 27 (21)
WH Ponsford       c Hunte           b Marshall       	 32 (53)
DG Bradman                          not out             167 (358)
GS Chappell       c Walcott         b Holding        	  9 (30)
RT Ponting        lbw               b Sobers         	 34 (60)
KR Miller         c Sobers          b Garner          	 26 (39)
AC Gilchrist      lbw               b Ambrose       	 60 (97)
AK Davidson       c Greenidge       b Garner          	 28 (92)
DK Lillee         c Walcott         b Garner          	  6 (13)
FR Spofforth      c Walcott         b Garner          	  0 (1)
GD McGrath        lbw               b Garner          	  3 (11)
Extras		  (w10 nb1 b12 lb11)		         34
Total             130 overs	                        426 all out

Fall of wickets:
1-28  2-79  3-112  4-179  5-232  6-336  7-403  8-420  9-420  10-426  

Bowling Figures for West Indies

                O	M	  R	W
Marshall       34	8	106	2	
Ambrose        29	7	 87	1	
Holding        20	4	 47	1	
Garner         24	3	 92	5	
Sobers         21	1	 69	1	
Richards        1	0	  2	0	

[CENTER]West Indies 1st Innings[/CENTER]
CC Hunte          c Gilchrist      b Spofforth      	 20 (41)
CG Greenidge      c Gilchrist      b Spofforth      	 24 (60)
IVA Richards      c Chappell       b McGrath        	 37 (113)
BC Lara           c Simpson        b Lillee         	184 (376)
ED Weekes         c Lillee         b Spofforth      	 34 (98)
GS Sobers         lbw              b Miller         	 93 (112)
CL Walcott        c Gilchrist      b Lillee         	 36 (88)
MD Marshall       c Davidson       b Lillee         	  1 (17)
MA Holding        c Miller         b Lillee         	 28 (34)
J Garner                           b McGrath        	 12 (27)
CEL Ambrose                        not out                4 (2)
Extras		  (w14 b20 lb17)		         51
Total             162 overs	                        524 all out

Fall of wickets:
1-40  2-65  3-125  4-222  5-390  6-467  7-477  8-482  9-516  10-524  

Bowling Figures for Australia

                O	 M	  R	W
McGrath        32	 8	112	2	
Lillee         40	 8	137	4	
Spofforth      28	 7	 88	3	
Davidson       35	15	 81	0	
Miller         21	 7	 44	1	
Simpson         5	 1	 25	0	

[CENTER]Australia 2nd Innings[/CENTER]
RB Simpson        c Walcott        b Marshall       	  0 (2)
WH Ponsford       c Walcott        b Marshall       	 26 (33)
DG Bradman        c Marshall       b Ambrose       	 76 (122)
GS Chappell       c Hunte          b Holding        	  4 (16)
RT Ponting        c Garner         b Ambrose       	 85 (146)
KR Miller         c Lara           b Ambrose       	 10 (10)
AC Gilchrist      c Garner         b Ambrose       	 13 (27)
AK Davidson                        not out               11 (35)
DK Lillee         c Hunte          b Ambrose       	  0 (3)
FR Spofforth      c Walcott        b Garner          	  4 (3)
GD McGrath        c Lara           b Ambrose       	  0 (16)
Extras		  (w3 b3 lb5)		                 11
Total             69 overs	                        240 all out

Fall of wickets:
1-0  2-58  3-71  4-144  5-168  6-216  7-224  8-224  9-229  10-240  

Bowling Figures for West Indies

                O	M	 R	W
Marshall       13	4	30	2	
Ambrose        21	6	67	6	
Holding        11	0	47	1	
Garner          6	0	28	1	
Sobers         17	4	60	0	

[CENTER]West Indies 2nd Innings[/CENTER]
CC Hunte          c Davidson       b McGrath        	16 (18)
CG Greenidge      c Walcott        b Lillee         	 2 (8)
IVA Richards      c Walcott        b Davidson       	49 (73)
BC Lara           c Simpson        b Lillee         	14 (41)
ED Weekes         c Ponsford       b Lillee         	 6 (9)
GS Sobers         lbw              b Spofforth      	20 (50)
CL Walcott        c Simpson        b Spofforth      	 9 (38)
MD Marshall                        not out              14 (22)
MA Holding        c Walcott        b Davidson       	 0 (11)
J Garner                           not out               3 (5)
Extras		  (w1 nb1 lb9)		                11
Total             46 overs	                       144 - 8

Fall of wickets:
1-12  2-20  3-66  4-72  5-109  6-119  7-128  8-133  

Bowling Figures for Australia

                O	M	 R	W
McGrath        10	3	41	1	
Lillee         13	3	39	3	
Spofforth      13	4	34	2	
Davidson        9	4	21	2	

[B]West Indies won by 2 wickets
Australia won series 3-2[/B]
Man of the match: Brian Lara
Man of the series: Don Bradman
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Excellent effort with the bat from both Bradman and Lara, a few good individual bowling performances to. West Indies would've been nervous by the time the winning runs were hit.
 

Magrat Garlick

Global Moderator
Lillee must have got an insane amount of wickets this series.

Edit: 34. Which would have been a new series record in the West Indies (t' old: Colin Croft v Pakistan 76/77). Somewhat better than his career stats of 32 overs, five maidens, nought for 132.
 
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The Sean

Cricketer Of The Year
Well the series got the final it deserved - magnificent performances with the bat from both Bradman and Lara, while Garner and Ambrose were both superb with the ball. After Australia's second innings the Windies were expected to romp home but an inspired performance in the field from Australia, combined with DK Lillee firing up as he did all series, meant that it went right down to the wire and there were more than a few nervous moments for the Calypso Kings before they snuck in.

Can anyone post the final series averages? That must have been 4 or 5 tons for The Don, and Lara and Sobers must have impressive run tallies as well. Lillee's 34 wickets was an outstanding achievement against such a line up, a credit to both his ability and his stamina.

Finally a big thanks to the tour manager adharcic, who organised the accommodation, playing venues, player's needs/requirements/egos and after match entertainment and ensured it all went like clockwork. Though reports that Keith Miller has spent most of his off-field time with the reigning Miss Jamaica are apparently way off the mark.

It was actually Miss Barbados. And her sister.
 
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adharcric

International Coach
Australia in West Indies - Tour Leaders

Most Runs
DG Bradman - 915 runs @ 114
GS Sobers - 543 runs @ 60
RT Ponting - 493 runs @ 70
BC Lara - 484 runs @ 48
WH Ponsford - 408 runs @ 45

Most Wickets
DK Lillee - 34 wickets @ 19
CEL Ambrose - 21 wickets @ 29
GD McGrath - 19 wickets @ 32
FR Spofforth - 17 wickets @ 27
MD Marshall - 16 wickets @ 32
 

adharcric

International Coach
That's all guys. Been a great pleasure running these tours. Thanks to all the selectors and everyone who contributed to make this really exciting. Back to classes in a few days but I'd love to participate in the India-Pakistan super series if someone (Matt?) is interested in running that.
 
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JBMAC

State Captain
Well the series got the final it deserved - magnificent performances with the bat from both Bradman and Lara, while Garner and Ambrose were both superb with the ball. After Australia's second innings the Windies were expected to romp home but an inspired performance in the field from Australia, combined with DK Lillee firing up as he did all series, meant that it went right down to the wire and there were more than a few nervous moments for the Calypso Kings before they snuck in.

Can anyone post the final series averages? That must have been 4 or 5 tons for The Don, and Lara and Sobers must have impressive run tallies as well. Lillee's 34 wickets was an outstanding achievement against such a line up, a credit to both his ability and his stamina.

Finally a big thanks to the tour manager adharcic, who organised the accommodation, playing venues, player's needs/requirements/egos and after match entertainment and ensured it all went like clockwork. Though reports that Keith Miller has spent most of his off-field time with the reigning Miss Jamaica are apparently way off the mark.

It was actually Miss Barbados. And her sister.


WHAT no Warnie?:laugh: :laugh:
 

adharcric

International Coach
The Sean said:
Though reports that Keith Miller has spent most of his off-field time with the reigning Miss Jamaica are apparently way off the mark.

It was actually Miss Barbados. And her sister.
:laugh:
 

The Sean

Cricketer Of The Year
WHAT no Warnie?:laugh: :laugh:
Warnie did nothing of the sort. He brought Simone and the kids over, stayed close and attentive to them and was the perfect husband, father and family man.

Hey, this is a fantasy series. I can invent a fantasy Warnie.
 

Matt79

Global Moderator
That's all guys. Been a great pleasure running these tours. Thanks to all the selectors and everyone who contributed to make this really exciting. Back to classes in a few days but I'd love to participate in the India-Pakistan super series if someone (Matt?) is interested in running that.
The India Pakistan series would be mad - but I'm not going to be running it anytime soon. I've got an insane amount of work on over the next couple of weeks - I'll be lucky if I'm on at all for the next little while :(

I'll sim and post the scorecards for the final of the England-SA series tonight, but a match review will have to be produced by someone else (I'd nominate The Sean if he's keen).
 

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