Oscar Pistorius

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Like I said before, what is the point in letting him race then? Because he wants to? A poor argument IMO, when it is quite clear that he shouldn't be allowed to compete with able bodied athletes, just like Michelle Wie shouldn't be allowed to play on the men's PGA tour.

And as I said before, the point is that it is not harming anyone, he wants to run, let him run. He provides a great example to all other disabled athletes. Shouldn't we be encouraging equal opportunities for them?

 

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And as I said before, the point is that it is not harming anyone, he wants to run, let him run. He provides a great example to all other disabled athletes. Shouldn't we be encouraging equal opportunities for them?

People aren't equal though, it's naive to think that they are IMO. He isn't harming anyone, but he is making a mockery of the rules governing athletics and the Paralympics as a concept and competition. I suppose you are in favour of letting the All Blacks and Black Ferns merge as one?

 

[Fiery]

People aren't equal though, it's naive to think that they are IMO. He isn't harming anyone, but he is making a mockery of the rules governing athletics and the Paralympics as a concept and competition. I suppose you are in favour of letting the All Blacks and Black Ferns merge as one?

It doesn't make a mockery of the Paralympics, I bet most paralympians are thoroughly inspired by him. As far as the rules go, there are none to govern this particular case at the moment, which is why this argument is on, so how can it make a mockery of them? And your final sentence is a bit ridiculous. This has nothing to do with ***

 

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It doesn't make a mockery of the Paralympics, I bet most paralympians are thoroughly inspired by him. As far as the rules go, there are none to govern this particular case at the moment, which is why this argument is on, so how can it make a mockery of them? And your final sentence is a bit ridiculous. This has nothing to do with ***

It does, the Paralympics were set up for disabled athletes so that they could compete against other disabled athletes, and by allowing this athlete to compete in the Olympics it would be avoiding the point of even having the Paralympics. My last sentence carries the same principles though, why allow an athlete to compete in a different competition when there is a competition set up specifically for somebody of their nature.

 

[Fiery]

It does, the Paralympics were set up for disabled athletes so that they could compete against other disabled athletes, and by allowing this athlete to compete in the Olympics it would be avoiding the point of even having the Paralympics. My last sentence carries the same principles though, why allow an athlete to compete in a different competition when there is a competition set up specifically for somebody of their nature.

Yes, and it was set up because most disabled athletes have no hope of competing against able-bodied athletes and give them the opportunity do compete against each other. The part in bold is just wrong imo. If anything it will encourage more disabled athletes to compete in paralympic events. And as I said the All Blacks/Black ferns argument is silly

 

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Yes, and it was set up because most disabled athletes have no hope of competing against able-bodied athletes and give them the opportunity do compete against each other. The part in bold is just wrong imo. If anything it will encourage more disabled athletes to compete in paralympic events. And as I said the All Blacks/Black ferns argument is silly

Yes, that was why it was set up, so that the disabled athletes could compete against each other. The inclusion of Pistorius in the Olympics would no doubt encourage more disabled athletes to compete in paralympic events, but what happens if a few more of his ability came along and began to dominate those events? Would we allow them to compete in the Olympics if they were good enough, meaning we could see a 100m heat with two or three disabled athletes.

 

[Fiery]

Yes, that was why it was set up, so that the disabled athletes could compete against each other. The inclusion of Pistorius in the Olympics would no doubt encourage more disabled athletes to compete in paralympic events, but what happens if a few more of his ability came along and began to dominate those events? Would we allow them to compete in the Olympics if they were good enough, meaning we could see a 100m heat with two or three disabled athletes.

No, as I said, he should be allowed to compete but there should be restrictions on him getting technical improvements to his blades. And rules should be put in place. Obviously it's only when athletes are using equipment that able-bodied athletes don't have where there is a problem but while they are coming last it's pointless to ban them.

 

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No, as I said, he should be allowed to compete but there should be restrictions on him getting technical improvements to his blades. And rules should be put in place. Obviously it's only when athletes are using equipment that able-bodied athletes don't have where there is a problem but while they are coming last it's pointless to ban them.

They are using blades though, which none of the able bodied athletes have. The issue lies in the principle of the matter really, as opposed to whether the athlete in question is winning or losing. What would happen if he trained harder and harder and eventually developed as a faster athlete, even with no improvements to his blades?

 

[Fiery]

They are using blades though, which none of the able bodied athletes have. The issue lies in the principle of the matter really, as opposed to whether the athlete in question is winning or losing. What would happen if he trained harder and harder and eventually developed as a faster athlete, even with no improvements to his blades?

Then good on him. He would be a blood legend if he did that and I would applaud. It's not going to happen

 

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Then good on him. He would be a blood legend if he did that and I would applaud. It's not going to happen

Then why let him compete if he has no chance of winning? I know you think he's not doing anybody any harm, but the aim of sports are to win, so by making an exception to the rule, in hypothetical terms and allowing a man compete that has virtually no chance of winning you are harming the sport IMO.

 

[Fiery]

Then why let him compete if he has no chance of winning? I know you think he's not doing anybody any harm, but the aim of sports are to win, so by making an exception to the rule, in hypothetical terms and allowing a man compete that has virtually no chance of winning you are harming the sport IMO.

I disagree and we're going round in circles so I'm out

 

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What good would it do to have him race with normal people? To show that state of the art technology limbs are better than the regular artcifial limbs other handicapped people have to use? To promote sales of expensive artificial limbs of a particular brand? Show off for mine.

 

[Fiery]

What good would it do to have him race with normal people? To show that state of the art technology limbs are better than the regular artcifial limbs other handicapped people have to use? To promote sales of expensive artificial limbs of a particular brand? Show off for mine.

I would love it for you to have no legs for a day and then say that

 

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I would love it for you to have no legs for a day and then say that

Why? If anything this is a poor joke he's pulling on all the disabled people who participate in the paralympics.

 

[Fiery]

Why? If anything this is a poor joke he's pulling on all the disabled people who participate in the paralympics.

You really think disabled people would be offended by this? I'm sure the vast majority are encouraging him

 

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You really think disabled people would be offended by this? I'm sure the vast majority are encouraging him

Doesn't seem to have too much support from other disabled athletes tbh. I can understand why.

 

[Fiery]

Doesn't seem to have too much support from other disabled athletes tbh. I can understand why.

I find that hard to believe

 

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Don't see any commending him on his 'noble' goal. Same with Sorenstram. She did no good to any cause playing with the men. What exactly did she prove?

 

[Fiery]

Don't see any commending him on his 'noble' goal. Same with Sorenstram. She did no good to any cause playing with the men. What exactly did she prove?

Proved that she wasn't good enough. Perhaps Oscar will do the same but at least he's trying.

 

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Proved that she wasn't good enough. Perhaps Oscar will do the same but at least he's trying.

Sure he's trying, but why insist on running with able bodied athletes and diluting their competition for them? Its not like he's going to win and it proves nothing beyond what everyone already knows anyway. I'll say it again, attention whore.