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No chance. Arsenal haven't played like Spurs did against Real Madrid since about 2006.
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***Official*** English Football Season 2017/18
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Yeah possibly, although Alderweireld coming back in would tilt it back to Spurs for me. There's not much in it.
Cabinet96
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I mean we can get very subjective here, but we did beat Pep's Barca and Bayern at the Emirates.
sledger
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Still within their reaches. They just haven't reached it for a while
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Yeah I mean I wouldn't want to go down the route of digging through Arsenal's best games of the past ten years to find something that might compare. My point was just that taking 10 points from four games against Real Madrid and Dortmund is indicative of a team with a very, very high ceiling.
sledger
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Said team did just get comprehensively outplayed by Arsenal though
Cabinet96
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Also having to fight urges to talk about the ridiculousness of Ronaldo and Benzema drawing blanks across those two games (and so many this season) but yeah their CL record this season is fantastic.
Actually remind me a lot of Dortmund 10-13. A good league season followed by an even better season but also a group stage exit in the CL, then followed up by topping a group of death in the CL, but maybe regressing a bit in the league as well. We'll have to wait and see whether the same exodus follows and whether Poch will still be there in three years.
Actually remind me a lot of Dortmund 10-13. A good league season followed by an even better season but also a group stage exit in the CL, then followed up by topping a group of death in the CL, but maybe regressing a bit in the league as well. We'll have to wait and see whether the same exodus follows and whether Poch will still be there in three years.
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Pardew to West Brom. I'm not even sure that he even qualifies as the so called "safe pair of hands". He's just a prat.
sledger
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What makes this even more hilarious is the fact that they went on to lose the match. Serves him right, insufferable smug bastard.
Up there with David Moyes as one of these people who has inexplicably managed to carve out a reputation as being a nice man, despite the fact that he's an utter prick.
sledger
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Haha maybe I have imagined it, but I swear he's always made out to be this decent, reasonable, down to earth, salt of the earth type bloke.
Furball
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It's equally baffling that he's carved out a career as a football manager, despite years of achieving precisely **** all.
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And Allardyce at Everton apparently.
I don't follow other leagues much but do the lower-league/relegation threatened clubs in Spain/Germany/Italy also keep cycling between the same 5-6 guys every few years? How are young British coaches supposed to break into this carousel? It seems Moyes, Pardew, Hodgson, Pulis and Allardyce will never run out of PL club owners who are ready to hire them.
I don't follow other leagues much but do the lower-league/relegation threatened clubs in Spain/Germany/Italy also keep cycling between the same 5-6 guys every few years? How are young British coaches supposed to break into this carousel? It seems Moyes, Pardew, Hodgson, Pulis and Allardyce will never run out of PL club owners who are ready to hire them.
sledger
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Haha holy ****. I either never knew about this or blanked it from my memory. Either way it's absolutely dire.
sledger
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By being good and showing said goodness over time. People harp on about the foreign coaches tekkin' all the jerbs, but it's not like the majority of them just magically fell into managing a big club without paying their dues and establishing their credentials elsewhere, and those that did for the most part end up being really ****ing good anyway (e.g. Pep).
The problem with English managers is that so many ex players just turn out to be total crap as coaches (e.g. Merson, Adams etc.), or just do not have the tactical nous to compete at the elite level (e.g. Keegan, Hodgson, Warnock, Curbishley etc.), or just play utterly turgid football (e.g. Pulis, Allardyce etc.), or are just genuinely complete crap (e.g. Iain Dowie, Les Reed etc.), or they are just a bit/averagely crap (e.g. Brent).
Edit: Although Brent isn't technically English tbf. Nor Dowie.
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It's a bit weird that Eddie Howe hasn't got more job offers, having achieved promotion then sustained mid-table finishes playing good football at a tiny club. When they got promoted everyone thought they were nailed-on relegation fodder. He doesn't even seem to get a lot of hype, you'd expect the media to be all over an English manager performing at that level.
