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    Just a thought - Handicap System in Cricket

    I was just wondering if there should be handicap system in cricket

    I mean, they are including countries like USA, Holland..let the game be realistic and give them some handicap runs to start with or wickets perhaps

    Seriously, why would someone goto watch a cricket match (Eg., USA/AUS), when u know the result before hand

    Ponting chose to field 1st, which basically eliminated all possibilty of Aus batting fireworks

    You couldn't even finsh the beer quota and the game was over

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    A few years ago, there were all sorts of shenannigans regarding 'doctored' pitches. One of the things considered at the time was to do away with the 'toss' and allow the visiting captain the choice of whether to bat or field.

    That could be a way of closing the gap somewhat when a big boy plays a minnow - but I wouldn't like to see it myself..
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    Its a sad example of the ICC trying to get too many teams into the international party at once, and before they are ready..

    No disrespect to any of the minnows, Im sure they all put 110% into their cricket, as well as usually playing the game in an exemplary spirit.. But the ICC isnt helping their cause at the moment.
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    They have to play at the World Cups and CTs, or else they'll never play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Pickup
    They have to play at the World Cups and CTs, or else they'll never play.
    But why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Langeveldt
    But why not?
    Could you see anyone offering Team USA a 3 or 5 game series without some serious incentives?

    Something really has to be done - and that something has to be done soon. The next World Cup is only just around the corner (time travels quicker for us oldies).

    If the ICC are serious about developing the 'minnow' nations up to full ODI status and ultimately to test status, these guys need to play more cricket - county-level stuff for a start.

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    Isn't the purpose of the CT to raise money for development?

    I agree with getting them into FC comps, or at least tours where they 'only' play FC teams. They should also have 1 or 2 annual comps for the 'next 8' to give them plenty of chances to play....having them regularly would also mean they can all have a chance to both host and develop some depth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by telsor
    Isn't the purpose of the CT to raise money for development?

    I agree with getting them into FC comps, or at least tours where they 'only' play FC teams. They should also have 1 or 2 annual comps for the 'next 8' to give them plenty of chances to play....having them regularly would also mean they can all have a chance to both host and develop some depth.
    But there are.

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    European Championships - every second year
    ICC Trophy - every fourth year
    African Championships - every second year (I think)
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    Americas Championship - every second year
    Asian CC Trophy - every second year.

    The problem isn't lack of tournaments. It's, as usual, lack of money - cricketers who have to take leave from work to go to Scotland, Namibia, or wherever, is going to have a problem. Most cricket players in Norway are taxi drivers, for instance...
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    Isn't the ICC currently taking about giving a handicap to Bangladesh?

    I heard they are trying to get them far more competive matches during non Test/ODI matches ie against teams like Kenya etc and only giving them home series vs the big nations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2001
    Isn't the ICC currently taking about giving a handicap to Bangladesh?

    I heard they are trying to get them far more competive matches during non Test/ODI matches ie against teams like Kenya etc and only giving them home series vs the big nations.
    And why is that fair to everyone else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel_Vimes
    The problem isn't lack of tournaments. It's, as usual, lack of money - cricketers who have to take leave from work to go to Scotland, Namibia, or wherever, is going to have a problem. Most cricket players in Norway are taxi drivers, for instance...
    I personally think it is the lack of tournaments as well though, I mean other than those games when else do the players play?

    Non of those countries have a solid Domestic season in place to help bring the players through, a prime instant was Bangladesh who had almost no domestic season when they won a spot on the ICC list, the only games they were playing were in major comps when teams like Australia were destorying them then they wouldn't play another game until the next major tournaments.

    Money like you say is a major factor as without money you can't set up a solid system and without a successful team you wont be getting the money in to fund the team, one big repeating circle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Langeveldt
    And why is that fair to everyone else?
    I didn't say it was fair... I was mearly pointing out something I heard, it might not even happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2001
    I didn't say it was fair... I was mearly pointing out something I heard, it might not even happen
    Sorry Rich, wasnt aimed at you at all, just rubbishing what is the most ludicrous thing I have heard from the International Cockup Council (And that is saying a lot)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2001
    I personally think it is the lack of tournaments as well though, I mean other than those games when else do the players play?

    Non of those countries have a solid Domestic season in place to help bring the players through, a prime instant was Bangladesh who had almost no domestic season when they won a spot on the ICC list, the only games they were playing were in major comps when teams like Australia were destorying them then they wouldn't play another game until the next major tournaments.

    Money like you say is a major factor as without money you can't set up a solid system and without a successful team you wont be getting the money in to fund the team, one big repeating circle.
    There is, actually, one-day cricket domestic leagues in most countries. Denmark has a pretty big league I believe, as do the Netherlands. The problem is, there is no first-class domestic league in place...which is where you start to build the skills required in international cricket. And it won't happen, either - due to the problems described above.

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    Bangladesh won't get a handicap. Which idiot though that was a real idea?

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