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    Donald was my third pick. Stacks of wickets from both swing and seam. Definitely not in the Mcgrath class as a seamer, and probably not in the Steyn class with swing, but the combination made him a top tier bowler.
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    Wasim and Steyn are clearly ahead of the rest when talking about the modern era but great bowlers could do pretty much both. Hadlee was an excellent exponent of lateral seam movemement. Waqar who was known for swing with his slingy actions did get seam movement under certain conditions in England.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SillyCowCorner1 View Post
    Any of those guys possess the cutter, if any?
    Marshall had a legcutter as per his cricinfo profile iirc

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    And as per cricketing folklore, it was taught to him by Lillee
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    the hookers and crack he got from James


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    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Warrior View Post
    Wasim and Steyn are clearly ahead of the rest when talking about the modern era but great bowlers could do pretty much both. Hadlee was an excellent exponent of lateral seam movemement. Waqar who was known for swing with his slingy actions did get seam movement under certain conditions in England.
    How did Hadlee pick between seam and swing, balance/frequency?
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    Bob Willis describes Lillee's "leg cutter" as "Fast leg spin" rather than a traditional leg Cutter. Early Lillee was more swing latter Lillee it was more cut (spin ?) and seam.

    Bob Willis pictured Lillee's stock outswinger and classified it as a fast leg- break. taken from Wisden - The Ashes Masters

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    Here's a weird one.

    Ryan Harris.

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    A leg cutter is different from the leg-spin

    different axes of rotation. Same direction of rotation. Counter-clockwise.
    Symmetry is beauty, beauty is truth. Breaking symmetry means breaking truth.

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