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    No one is more real than Ponting.

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    His father sounds like a dick.
    He (Alastair Cook) and his family are very much the sort of people we want the England captain and his family to be
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    Smith's decline will be a steep one IMO. He relies heavily on his incredible hand-eye coordination. Once his eyes start detoriating, he won't be able to score as heavily because of his technique.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
    Smith's decline will be a steep one IMO. He relies heavily on his incredible hand-eye coordination. Once his eyes start detoriating, he won't be able to score as heavily because of his technique.
    This can easily be corrected by having bionic eyes.
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    What exactly is wrong with Smith's technique?

    Unorthodox does not mean bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
    Smith's decline will be a steep one IMO. He relies heavily on his incredible hand-eye coordination. Once his eyes start detoriating, he won't be able to score as heavily because of his technique.
    I would have thought that every batsman relies on hand-eye coordination. Which type of batsmen can score heavily after their eyes detoriate?.

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    I read somewhere that when Bradman was tested for the army they found he had poor eyesight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey View Post
    hmmm, his test retirement basically happened because he didn't want get dropped like he did from the ODI team. it's a classic case of a retirement being selfish imo
    I meant that he could have retired at the height of his powers but continued because he was still needed regardless of the damage to his stats

    When you play 168 tests I wouldn't attack him for wanting to call time on his own career
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    Quote Originally Posted by S.Kennedy View Post
    I read somewhere that when Bradman was tested for the army they found he had poor eyesight!
    Neil Harvey had his eyes tested on a tour in SA and the optometrist asked him who leads him out to bat. #bloodyhopeless
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    That Howie Games hour or so podcast from last year with Ponting was brilliant. There were a few insights into his retirement on that too. He mentioned ideally retiring after 100 tests but was right into getting the most he could out of the new team after McGrath, Warne, Martyn, Gilly, Langer and Hayden went. Like he felt it would have been the wrong thing to leave at the same time. Itís a great interview if anyone hasnít listened to it.
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    I wonder if he retires had Australia won the 2009 Ashes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    Neil Harvey had his eyes tested on a tour in SA and the optometrist asked him who leads him out to bat. #bloodyhopeless
    Funny you should mention Harvey, not to perpetuate the thought but didn't he start out bloody ridiculous and have a bit of a decline too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
    Smith's decline will be a steep one IMO. He relies heavily on his incredible hand-eye coordination. Once his eyes start detoriating, he won't be able to score as heavily because of his technique.
    I don't think there's any truth to this whatsoever. There's no reason to think he relies on hand eye coordination more than anyone else. This is a weird assumption that keeps getting perpetuated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy View Post
    Smith's decline will be a steep one IMO. He relies heavily on his incredible hand-eye coordination. Once his eyes start detoriating, he won't be able to score as heavily because of his technique.
    Sehwag is someone who was always going to struggle more than most (and did) when his eyes started to decline slightly.

    Not so sure about Smith, because he does actually use his feet quite well, even if he is unorthodox. I assume you're predominately referring to his taking balls from off-stump through mid-wicket, and that is possibly one area he might have to work on as his eyes start to decline even marginally so.

    I used to think the same about his namesake Graeme Smith, who used to make a living taking balls from off-stump through mid-wicket, but he began to play marginally straighter as he aged. I'm guessing Smith will make that slight adjustment to.

    I think it's important to watch Steve Smith's position when he's actually striking the ball, as opposed to his preamble. On hitting the ball he actually gets himself surprisingly orthodox positions.

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    Maybe he should just wear glasses to compensate? Just a thought!

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