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    I read somewhere that that UAE bootcamp had grounds of all types so you could practice for wherever you were going. Did I read right that they even had English like pitches? Those boot camps could be a real thing, but they still take time and not everyone has weeks to spare before a tour with the crammed schedule of everything.
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    One problem of having ODIs and T20s before the start of the Tests is that teams usually have some sort of focused preparation for tests right before a tour, and once you play the ODIs your preparation is likely to be disrupted. Imagine if Australia did all the hard work in UAE then rocked up to India and played their trademark 350 v 350 type ODI series. In 2 weeks they'd forget everything they learnt.

    Wonder what it's like in reality for the players though. I imagine some would be quite comfortable switching from format to format.
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    Yeah that's why its a thing of the past now. Most tours are going to be split between Tests and LOs. Good decision IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    I also think ODIs before the series makes for a really good appetiser sometimes. I remember really enjoying the 2005 tri-series before the Ashes for exactly taht reason.
    Oddly enough everyone always forgets there was a 3 match bilateral series between England and Australia after the tri series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furball View Post
    I'm not sure that there's necessarily a trend of teams doing worse away from home either. Ignoring South Africa, Australia have lost 1 home series in a quarter of a century, India lose **** all at home, South Africa routinely smash visiting sides not named Australia or England. Reckon series these days seem more one sided because you get less draws, back in the good old days you might lose a 4 or 5 Test away series 1 or 2-0, now with all the Tests seeing results you get 3 and 4-0 defeats.
    To add to this, I think things feel worse now because we're coming off a 10-15 year period where we had:

    An ATG Australian side that smashed everyone, everywhere.
    A great South African side that didn't lose an away series for 10 years.
    Possibly England's greatest ever modern day side which between the 2009 and 2013 Ashes won in Australia and India and drew in South Africa
    India's best ever side which was competitive in Australia (drew in 03/04 and lost 2-1 in 07/08), won a series in England and drew in South Africa.

    All of the above sides would hammer their present day counter parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furball View Post
    Oddly enough everyone always forgets there was a 3 match bilateral series between England and Australia after the tri series.
    I'll never forget it. One of the 3 games was on the day of the 2005 tube bombings and I was stuck in a hotel room because London was in lockdown.

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    Ed Smith is bang on the money in that article. Despite what they say about win/loss stats not changing much lately, Test Cricket is more predicatable now than at any other time Iíve been watching. Admittedly thatís only really been since the late 90s.

    And itís not just sour grapes regarding England. I love watching Broad humiliate the crims at TB as much as the next English cricket fan, or as much as an Aussies loves watching Smith pile on the runs at Brisbane. But such one sided affairs arenít gonna win new fans, they wonít convince those who prefer LO stuff that this is the height of the game.

    Canít see it changing anytime soon either. Think itís more to do with a lack of quality than anything else. Think Aus have the best chance of bucking this trend over the coming years, especially in the 2019 Ashes. Smith, Hazlewood and Cummins vs a declining Jimmy Broad and Cook might just be enough.

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