Players who 'over-performed' internationally

[ImpatientLime]

Very good call. I don't remember anyone on CW predicting the level of success he enjoyed.

Stuart Broad may well be another.

yeah for an orthodox finger spinner playing out of england with none of the modern day finger spinners tricks, he didn't do bad.

 

[wpdavid]

yeah for an orthodox finger spinner playing out of england with none of the modern day finger spinners tricks, he didn't do bad.

Swann did benefit from the advent of DRS to be fair. But he's still the best English spinner I've seen since Underwood.

Another English contender is Michael Vaughan.

 

[morgieb]

IIRC Shane Warne averaged mid-30's for Victoria.

Though TBF he's far from the only recent Australian to have a better Test average than a Shield average.

 

[ImpatientLime]

given vaughan's ceiling, i think there's a case he under performed.

he looked truly elite in 2002-2003.

 

[mr_mister]

IIRC Shane Warne averaged mid-30's for Victoria.

Though TBF he's far from the only recent Australian to have a better Test average than a Shield average.

Even Warne's test average feels high considering his status as arguable GOAT bowler

 

[OverratedSanity]

Even Warne's test average feels high considering his status as arguable GOAT bowler

Didn't play BD and Zim enough.

#can of worms

 

[wpdavid]

given vaughan's ceiling, i think there's a case he under performed.

he looked truly elite in 2002-2003.

I suppose both statements are true for Vaughan. His golden spell way exceeded his FC record at that stage. Maybe the captaincy adversely affected his batting thereafter.

 

[Shri]

Joginder Sharma

 

[Kirkut]

VVS Laxman. Before he made that epic 167 in Sydney, he was 'just another batsman' in the team. And of course I don't need to get started on 281.

 

[fredfertang]

Came here to mention David Gower, whose Test/FC averages are 44/40 - had expected the difference to be bigger tbh - he never looked in the slightest bit interested when I saw him play for Leicestershire or Hampshire

 

[CricAddict]

Steve Smith

 

[TheJediBrah]

Chris Rogers was supposed to be crap too

according to who?

 

[kingkallis]

Hashim Amla looked completely out of place and then bounced back like anything.

Rangana Herath did surprise me as well with his success.

 

[weldone]

When Ganguly was selected for the 1996 tour to England, everybody (except the selectors) just knew it was going to be his last series. Harsha Bhogle called him a quota player. Ex-players like Sandeep Patil, Bishan Bedi, Ravi Shastri didn't rate Ganguly at all.

 

[Gnske]

Typical Englishman re: Barrington, can't handle good fast bowling.

 

[Kirkut]

When Ganguly was selected for the 1996 tour to England, everybody (except the selectors) just knew it was going to be his last series. Harsha Bhogle called him a quota player. Ex-players like Sandeep Patil, Bishan Bedi, Ravi Shastri didn't rate Ganguly at all.

He came in as a replacement for Sidhu I believe.

 

[OverratedSanity]

His FC average is quite a bit higher than his Test one, doesn't really count at all.

Trescothick, maybe? Though his FC average post-Test retirement is over 50, so probably just England getting lucky on him improving rapidly around the time he got selected for the Test side.

according to who?

Could be wrong, but I remember reading tons of posts on here about how he didn't have the technique for test cricket at all.

 

[Daemon]

Could be wrong, but I remember reading tons of posts on here about how he didn't have the technique for test cricket at all.

Yep. Big names too. Wish I cbf to dig up the posts.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Might trawl through the archives when I get the time.

 

[Midwinter]

Peter Taylor