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    The two are from different eras, can't compare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eds View Post
    And in terms of batting average, Sobers is closer to Shane Warne than Bradman.
    If I remember rightly, Sobers averaged about 73 for the best part of a decade. So for 10 years, comparing Sobers and Bradman would be somewhat similar to comparing Michael Atherton and Len Hutton, or Mike Smith and Walter Hammond (if you want to make such assumptions).
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    Bradman is the greatest batsman ever,Sobers the greatest cricketer. Arguably top three batsman, best All Rounder and fifth bowler ever and possibly the greatest fielder to play the game, brilliant slip as well.
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    Kallis would make a better 5th bowler.

    And why is he the best cricketer ever? Bradman is equivalent of 2 ATG batsmen, whereas Sobers is an ATG batsman and Umar Gul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Nationaux View Post
    Kallis would make a better 5th bowler.

    And why is he the best cricketer ever? Bradman is equivalent of 2 ATG batsmen, whereas Sobers is an ATG batsman and Umar Gul.


    ****, now that puts things in perspective
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    Umar Gul although not as economical still strikes around 30 balls quicker than Sobers

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    Quote Originally Posted by karan316 View Post
    Yeah, but for that, you would also need the ineffective bowlers of that era bowling to him.
    Dear me. I knew you only started this thread to trash Bradman's efforts by downgrading his opposition. That opinion can't be quietened by the contrary facts it seems but can you at least spare us the tedium of going through it again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by smalishah84 View Post


    ****, now that puts things in perspective
    It does. I thought the comparison with Ishant to be overkill.

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    funnily enough that within 10 years time of Bradman's retirement cricket went through such massive change that it became an unrecognizable sport and Garry Sobers became one of the greatest batsmen of the modern era as his career ended in early 1970s
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    Big change to cricket came with Packer, floodlights and the accelerating popularity in the one day game. That came about 30 years Bradman's retirement. Can't see much that changed in the period up til then.

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    the comparison with Sharma really wasn't overkill tbh. See for yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by smalishah84 View Post
    funnily enough that within 10 years time of Bradman's retirement cricket went through such massive change that it became an unrecognizable sport and Garry Sobers became one of the greatest batsmen of the modern era as his career ended in early 1970s
    Was just about to make this point. Even though their careers are just a decade apart, Bradman is somehow made out to be from this primitive age where everyone took to the field merely to burn some calories and Sobers is the "modern" master.

    Imagine if Bradman had the privilege of batting on covered pitches, tiny grounds, with proper protective gear, against the likes of Ishant Sharma and Mohammad Sami, with the ridiculous bats of today.
    He probably wouldn't have an average
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    Sobers was an AR with ball though and bowled in circumstances where Ishant would be useless and to the detriment of his average. In short Ishant got those figures bowling at time to optimise his wicket taking potential (bowling in India notwithstanding). Sir Garry when the work he did would be effective but not shown in his stats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    Comparing Bradman to anyone is stupid because he's a complete anomaly.
    Somebody who can average 58 with the bat, bowl pace, finger or wrist spin and to be a ATG dhrtleg fielder is similar if not a bigger anomaly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Nationaux View Post
    Kallis would make a better 5th bowler.

    And why is he the best cricketer ever? Bradman is equivalent of 2 ATG batsmen, whereas Sobers is an ATG batsman and Umar Gul.
    One ATG batsman and aone good batsman TBH. Averaging 55 + 44 FTR. A Flower plus Laxman.

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