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    I don't see it as an issue. Nations that have had diverse populations have done well due to a wide range of people with different skill sets. It's also one of the reasons why corporations value diversity. As long as you are loyal to the country you live in and serve what is wrong with that?

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    Luke Ronchi, Eoin Morgan and Boyd Rankin are the really rank ones. Most of the others like Stokes, KP etc are fine.
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    I would add Fawad Ahmed to that list only because Aussie immigration laws were changed to accomodate him & Dirk "two countries in one year" Nannes

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    Fawad Ahmed being a genuine refugee is a slightly different matter, but the fact that he was treated much better than your average refugee arrival to Australia I guess means he belongs on the list

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    Luke Ronchi, Eoin Morgan and Boyd Rankin are the really rank ones. Most of the others like Stokes, KP etc are fine.
    tbf to Morgan and Rankin, this was their best chance to play Tests. Although if England only pick them for ODI's (which they look like doing) then that's pretty ****ty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GingerFurball View Post
    Or when New Zealand picked Australian international Luke Ronchi.
    I think there was a fair few questions asked about this tbh. Same with Kruger van Wyk, Neil Wagner or Grant Elliott.
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    Stokes I absolutely don't have a problem with. If you went to school in the country you're playing for then there should be no questions asked IMO.

    Ronchi I could go either way on. I think there's some advantage to allowing international players play for their second choice team if they're unlikely to be selected for their first choice team. When England spit out some of the Irish players I'd like for them to be eligible to play for Ireland.

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    you shouldn't get a second choice team. if you've played international cricket for a top eight nation, got dropped so ****ed off to another top eight nation then that just makes a mockery of international sport. i can cope with a wagner or a tahir, and a bit more so with a brownlie, but ronchi and maybe the irsh guys are too much for me.

    i do have some sympathy for the irish cricketers though, but then ireland does appear to be heavily dependent on county cricket developing their players. though maybe the counties do see a quality young irish teenager and pluck him for their self interest. i don't know all the deets about the ireland/england situation.
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    oh, and i would add the likes of CdG, Ballance and especially fawad ahmed are all good. you can't blame someone for wanting to move away from a cluster****.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    Luke Ronchi, Eoin Morgan and Boyd Rankin are the really rank ones. Most of the others like Stokes, KP etc are fine.
    Yeah, this is where it doesn't sit comfortably with me either.

    I think once you've played International cricket (any format) then you shouldn't be allowed to then go play for another country. I think the players you mentioned need to make a decision early in their career and stick with it, if they have test cricket aspirations (the Irish) they need to back themselves from the beginning. At the moment it seems like they are hedging their bets.

    As for the general topic here, couldn't disagree more with the OP.........it is a non issue and it's high time everyone just got over it.
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    As long as said foreigner is essentially a product of that country's FC system then that is fine by me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adders View Post
    Yeah, this is where it doesn't sit comfortably with me either.

    I think once you've played International cricket (any format) then you shouldn't be allowed to then go play for another country. I think the players you mentioned need to make a decision early in their career and stick with it, if they have test cricket aspirations (the Irish) they need to back themselves from the beginning. At the moment it seems like they are hedging their bets.

    As for the general topic here, couldn't disagree more with the OP.........it is a non issue and it's high time everyone just got over it.
    In that case, neither Ireland nor Zimbabwe will ever become competitive. Afghanistan, Canada etc too.

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