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    Is it confirmed that Southee is the vc for the test side, or is this still a rumour? If true, then that is just bizarre. Williamson was captain of the u19's (a side which featured several current BC's), of ND (a side which featured several current BC's) and briefly the NZ ODI side. I don't buy it being because Williamson's place in the side is uncertain. He just scored a 100 in his last match and has performed better than any other New Zealand number 3 since Fleming (not saying much, but it still counts). Even if his number 3 spot were in question (which it can't be any time soon, given the lack of viable replacements), Williamson would be more likely to drop down the order rather than drop out of the side altogether.

    Bowlers almost never make good captains, and I've seen nothing from Southee in his career to date to suggest that he'd be likely to buck that trend. Maybe Hesson legitimately believes that Southee is captaincy material, but if this is true, it's very hard to see it as anything other than a calculated powerplay to entrench McCullum's position by filling the vc role with a supporter of his.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahnz View Post
    Is it confirmed that Southee is the vc for the test side, or is this still a rumour?
    Just rumour. NZ Cricket have come out and said they don't know where the rumour came from and that it isn't true. Of course, they are about as trustworthy as Chris Martin's forward defense - so it could actually be true.

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    lol that title "No Decision Yet"

    reminds me of "Ross is Captain For Now"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Binkley View Post
    Just rumour. NZ Cricket have come out and said they don't know where the rumour came from and that it isn't true. Of course, they are about as trustworthy as Chris Martin's forward defense - so it could actually be true.

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    Phew, that makes me feel slightly better for the moment. But given that Hesson is the man who'll choose the vc, I guess we'll have to keep our fingers crossed a while longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahnz View Post
    Is it confirmed that Southee is the vc for the test side, or is this still a rumour? If true, then that is just bizarre. Williamson was captain of the u19's (a side which featured several current BC's), of ND (a side which featured several current BC's) and briefly the NZ ODI side.
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    Anyone going to follow the practise 20/20 tonight?

    I have work in the morning so probably cbf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    Anyone going to follow the practise 20/20 tonight?

    I have work in the morning so probably cbf.

    On holiday atm, so i'll be following it on cricinfo if i'm up. Wish they would televise the game, should be pretty close imo.

    Was hoping Supersport would show it as I found a way to watch their stuff online, however it doesn't seem that they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    Anyone going to follow the practise 20/20 tonight?

    I have work in the morning so probably cbf.
    First innings maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahnz View Post
    Is it confirmed that Southee is the vc for the test side, or is this still a rumour? If true, then that is just bizarre. Williamson was captain of the u19's (a side which featured several current BC's), of ND (a side which featured several current BC's) and briefly the NZ ODI side. I don't buy it being because Williamson's place in the side is uncertain. He just scored a 100 in his last match and has performed better than any other New Zealand number 3 since Fleming (not saying much, but it still counts). Even if his number 3 spot were in question (which it can't be any time soon, given the lack of viable replacements), Williamson would be more likely to drop down the order rather than drop out of the side altogether.

    Bowlers almost never make good captains, and I've seen nothing from Southee in his career to date to suggest that he'd be likely to buck that trend. Maybe Hesson legitimately believes that Southee is captaincy material, but if this is true, it's very hard to see it as anything other than a calculated powerplay to entrench McCullum's position by filling the vc role with a supporter of his.

    Ugh.
    Agree entirely. This was my reaction as well. Good thing it has been confirmed as a rumour.

    Incidentally, what are peoples thoughts on how the captaincy will affect McCullum's batting? I can't help think it will stifle his natural game which I'm not sure will be a good thing.

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    Don't think it's gonna get far worse than it is ATM tbf - although can't see it having any positive effect on his batting either.
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    give 21yo smith a break. bradmans figures for his first few tests were comparable.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinzan View Post
    Agree entirely. This was my reaction as well. Good thing it has been confirmed as a rumour.

    Incidentally, what are peoples thoughts on how the captaincy will affect McCullum's batting? I can't help think it will stifle his natural game which I'm not sure will be a good thing.
    General trend seems to be that the higher the expectations of McCullum's batting are, the worse it gets. Though tbf he has turned this round a little in the last couple of years.

    I definitely do not want to see McCullum batting down the order though (tests). Must stay as opener.

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    Quote Originally Posted by straw man View Post
    I definitely do not want to see McCullum batting down the order though (tests). Must stay as opener.
    +1.

    He actually has the best technique for an opener of all the NZ batsmen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    +1.

    He actually has the best technique for an opener of all the NZ batsmen.
    Technique doesnt count for **** when your shot selection is ****

    Edit: Completely agree with you though
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