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    The best way to measure a player's peak (test cricket)

    I have been thinking about how to incorporate a peak into my player career ratings. At this stage, my overall rating will comprise the career rating (70%) and the peak rating (30%).

    I have come down to three options:
    1. A 50-test peak
    2. A ten-year peak (as done recently on the cricinfo IT figures blog)
    3. A combination of the two (50 tests or ten years, whichever an individual player achieves first).


    I think no.3 is the best bet, since no.1 would disadvantage players of older vintage, who played tests at a much lesser rate than players of today; and no.2 would disadvantages players like Botham, who had a peak of roughly 5 years, in which he played near enough to 50 matches.

    You thoughts?

    btw, I used to think a 30-test peak was suitable, but I found it was too short a time period for modern players and didn't really separate the good players from the great ones (who should have longer sustained periods of peak performances).
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    I think you'd want to use some standard deviation type of thing maybe from their overall perhaps. I'm an amateur on statistics though (the proper type I mean) rather than an arbitary cutoff
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    A study was done of the peak period of great batsmen. It was set at 52 tests, which is the amount Bradman played, and provides some sort of a benchmark.

    From memory, Ricky Ponting had the greatest sequence of 52 tests as a batsman apart from Bradman. His average over the 52 tests isolated was very very high.....

    Anyone remember this and have a link? T'was on cricnfo...
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    There was a lot of discussion on this topic before: The best at their peak?

    And I posted some charts that might interest you: The best at their peak?

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    Gilchrist had a fairly freakish run between 1999 and 2002-03 IIRC. Averaged around 65 I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    A study was done of the peak period of great batsmen. It was set at 52 tests, which is the amount Bradman played, and provides some sort of a benchmark.

    From memory, Ricky Ponting had the greatest sequence of 52 tests as a batsman apart from Bradman. His average over the 52 tests isolated was very very high.....

    Anyone remember this and have a link? T'was on cricnfo...
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    Incredible that it took Ponting just over 4 years to play 52 tests, while Bradman's 52 tests took 20 years (with a war in the middle).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    Incredible that it took Ponting just over 4 years to play 52 tests, while Bradman's 52 tests took 20 years (with a war in the middle).
    Cook has played 60 tests in almost same number of months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    Incredible that it took Ponting just over 4 years to play 52 tests, while Bradman's 52 tests took 20 years (with a war in the middle).
    Incredible that he could perform so well with what you'd assume would be diminishing faculties

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trichromatic View Post
    Cook has played 60 tests in almost same number of months.
    Yeh, air travel has really helped out!

    Quote Originally Posted by uvelocity View Post
    Incredible that he could perform so well with what you'd assume would be diminishing faculties
    Bradman you mean? Absolutely.

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    Decided on the following:

    Played majority of matches between 1877-1914: Peak period of 30 matches
    Played majority of matches between 1920-1939: Peak period of 35 matches
    Played majority of matches between 1946-1969: Peak period of 40 matches
    Played majority of matches between 1970-1999: Peak period of 50 matches
    Played majority of matches after 2000: Peak period of 60 matches

    With adjusted averages, of course.

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