CW Draft League - Page 4

kyear2 · 30-06-2012, 06:00 AM

Why am I always last. Second straight draft picking last and can't get one the truely elite players

kyear2 · 30-06-2012, 06:04 AM

Also back to my point of if Bradman isn't here that Sobers would be the automatic first pick, still is predictable and doesnt call for skill.
Edit: Thought we were going to finish the existing draft before starring this one.

Dan · 30-06-2012, 06:28 AM

Hold off on starting it Jager, we've got three drafts running to start with - ATG, ATG ODI and the Auction Draft.

ATG is ending soon, so maybe start once that ends.

Definitely use a separate thread for the 'Reserve' Drafts. I'll run it if you'd like

Jager · 30-06-2012, 08:34 AM

Alright, from this moment this draft is ON STANDBY until Monk's ATG Quick draft is finished.

The order will remain the same, although kingkallis may need to re-pick depending on whether Sobers is included or not.

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Originally Posted by kyear2

Also back to my point of if Bradman isn't here that Sobers would be the automatic first pick, still is predictable and doesnt call for skill.
Edit: Thought we were going to finish the existing draft before starring this one.

Agreed here, but I thought the general consensus would be to keep Sobers in. If the majority of people want Sobers taboo, he will become taboo.

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Originally Posted by rvd619323

Hold off on starting it Jager, we've got three drafts running to start with - ATG, ATG ODI and the Auction Draft.

ATG is ending soon, so maybe start once that ends.

Definitely use a separate thread for the 'Reserve' Drafts. I'll run it if you'd like

That'd be great, I am running the ODI draft, the Draft League and some of the ATG world XI's game, so that would help a lot. I think you should hold out on starting it until Monk is done though, for obvious reasons.

kyear2 · 30-06-2012, 08:43 AM

My point was why make anyone taboo. He played a test cricket so he should be included.
If you make Sobers taboo then Marshall or Imran goes first. There will always be a consensus.

Jager · 30-06-2012, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kyear2

My point was why make anyone taboo. He played a test cricket so he should be included.
If you make Sobers taboo then Marshall or Imran goes first. There will always be a consensus.

Well I think Sobers should stay, after considering it. You get a genuinely unfair advantage if you get Bradman. Sobers, despite being a superhero all-rounder, does not automatically make your lineup stand out from the rest. I'd say probably because he is a fifth bowling option, instead of Miller, Imran, Botham etc. who can genuinely be used to open the bowling at ATG level. If you get Bradman, you will likely still get another two ATG bats to make your lineup by far the best.

MrPrez · 30-06-2012, 12:47 PM

Yeah Sobers should be kept in. Kallis, Khan etc all right up there with him anyway.

Himannv · 30-06-2012, 02:02 PM

Sorry for the delay folks. Imran Khan

Monk · 30-06-2012, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jager

Well I think Sobers should stay, after considering it. You get a genuinely unfair advantage if you get Bradman. Sobers, despite being a superhero all-rounder, does not automatically make your lineup stand out from the rest. I'd say probably because he is a fifth bowling option, instead of Miller, Imran, Botham etc. who can genuinely be used to open the bowling at ATG level. If you get Bradman, you will likely still get another two ATG bats to make your lineup by far the best.

I agree. Bradman is so ridiculously good it's absurd. Considering great batsmen like Ponting, Tendulkar and Viv all average around 50, and would be considered in many ATG World XIs, the fact that Bradman averages 100 seems crazy.

And on Sobers, if I had first selection, I'd probably take him, but I'd also consider Imran, Viv and Warne strongly, for various reasons.

However, if Bradman is included, I take him, no doubt. He is two excellent batsmen in one, giving me massive flexibility to be creative with all-rounders at #6, 7 and 8.

Eds · 30-06-2012, 03:38 PM

Reckon we should continue this. If this is effectively a series of drafts, it's going to take a very long time. I'm sure those in both drafts won't get confused, anyway.

kingkallis · 30-06-2012, 05:26 PM

Why would you HOLD something amazing like this? Other 2 drafts are QUICKIES and will be over in no time so lets continue with this...

Monk · 30-06-2012, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kingkallis

Why would you HOLD something amazing like this? Other 2 drafts are QUICKIES and will be over in no time so lets continue with this...

The ATG test draft should be over very soon.

I'm keen as to get on board with this, so I'll keep track of what happens!

kingkallis · 30-06-2012, 05:30 PM

Perfect!

marc71178 · 30-06-2012, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPrez

Yeah Sobers should be kept in. Kallis, Khan etc all right up there with him anyway.

No, they're not.

kyear2 · 30-06-2012, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by marc71178

No, they're not.

awta.

No one is up there with Sobers, only Bradman and that is as a batsman alone. Warne is just in that level below, and for me followed by Marshall. Hobbs and Richards.

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30-06-2012, 06:04 AM	#47 (permalink)
kyear2 International Debutant Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: w.i Posts: 2,514	Also back to my point of if Bradman isn't here that Sobers would be the automatic first pick, still is predictable and doesnt call for skill. Edit: Thought we were going to finish the existing draft before starring this one. Last edited by kyear2; 30-06-2012 at 06:20 AM.

30-06-2012, 12:47 PM	#52 (permalink)
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30-06-2012, 02:02 PM	#53 (permalink)
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30-06-2012, 03:38 PM	#55 (permalink)
Eds State Captain Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: England Posts: 1,751	Reckon we should continue this. If this is effectively a series of drafts, it's going to take a very long time. I'm sure those in both drafts won't get confused, anyway. __________________ "If that Swann lad is the future of spin bowling in this country, then we're **ed." - Nasser Hussain, 1997.

30-06-2012, 06:28 AM	#48 (permalink)
Dan Global Moderator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3,107	Hold off on starting it Jager, we've got three drafts running to start with - ATG, ATG ODI and the Auction Draft. ATG is ending soon, so maybe start once that ends. Definitely use a separate thread for the 'Reserve' Drafts. I'll run it if you'd like

30-06-2012, 08:43 AM	#50 (permalink)
kyear2 International Debutant Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: w.i Posts: 2,514	My point was why make anyone taboo. He played a test cricket so he should be included. If you make Sobers taboo then Marshall or Imran goes first. There will always be a consensus.

30-06-2012, 05:26 PM	#56 (permalink)
kingkallis International Captain Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: India Posts: 5,723	Why would you HOLD something amazing like this? Other 2 drafts are QUICKIES and will be over in no time so lets continue with this... __________________ CricZo XI - Draft League Season 1 M Hayden, G Gooch, R Dravid, W Hammond, K Pietersen, G Sobers, R Marsh (wk), R Benaud (c), D Steyn, W Hall, N Adcock Season 2 J Hobbs, B Richards, D Boon, H Taylor, C Lloyd (c), A Stewart (wk), T Goddard, A Davidson, H Tayfield, C Ambrose, H Griffith Season 3 H Sutcliffe, M Hayden, I Chappell (c), G Pollock, A Faulkner, M Hussey, D Lindsay (wk), I Botham, A Kumble, M Marshall, D Lillee

30-06-2012, 05:30 PM	#58 (permalink)
kingkallis International Captain Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: India Posts: 5,723	Perfect! Last edited by kingkallis; 30-06-2012 at 05:37 PM.

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