Pace gurus speak - Issues with the modern day fast bowlers

[smash84]

awta. Very well said. It is easy to forget that Australia was such a tough place to bowl because of arguably the greatest side ever playing there for more than a decade rather than the conditions

 

[silentstriker]

Yeah, the subcontinent is tought to bowl in. So is Australia. So was the West Indies last time England toured. Yet no-one ever says "what's his record in Australia like? What about the West Indies?" This idea that you can only be a great if you've done well in the subcontinent is absolute baloney.

Err, people do look at a person's record vs. Australia to judge them. It happens all the time ( good or bad - for example VVS Laxman,or a Kallis).

Also, my main point wasn't that it's important because it's tough...I said it's important because it is different (and thus also tough). Meaning, conditions such as India and SL test different skills, moreso than some of the other countries (even though each country does have its own unique conditions, a place like India or SL is 'more different' than other places that most non subcontinental cricketers are used to, and thus, it becomes an important landmark for greatness).

 

[Athlai]

The West Indies doesn't really count because they've always had some massive holes in their batting lineup over the last decade. Every now and then you also find a few decent fast bowling pitches (or even ridiculously favorable ones).