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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    This thread is set to get very ugly very quickly.

    Still won't get as as ugly as Ajmal's bowling, though.
    That is just troll.
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    Assuming it is test matches...........

    Swann by a country mile. It is not even close. I am not even bringing the chucking angle into it because it is irrelevant. He is allowed to bowl according to the laws of cricket so be it.
    And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW

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    Swann easily. But having said that Ajmal never had opportunities as Swann due to selection blunders. If Ajmal had an opportunity five years earlier, would have been as good as Swann.
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    Feel Ajmal is being underrated here.

    Swann i would rate ahead of him right now, but Ajmal is a pretty tricky spinner who can trouble even the best with his variations.

    Chucking or not doesn't really matter as long as he is allowed to bowl.


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    Ajmal can make guys look really silly early, but when a guy gets in against him he doesn't have the plan B and C that Swann has.

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    Spinners "chucking" is the biggest non-issue in cricket IMO. It's one of those rules that should change with time. Spinners cannot cause serious injuries to batsmen when chucking because they don't use it for extra pace, therefore it should not matter if spinners chuck. I know that's a very unorthodox view and will not find many supporters, but I stick to that.

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    Out of interest, what are plans B & C?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8ankitj View Post
    Spinners "chucking" is the biggest non-issue in cricket IMO. It's one of those rules that should change with time. Spinners cannot cause serious injuries to batsmen when chucking because they don't use it for extra pace, therefore it should not matter if spinners chuck. I know that's a very unorthodox view and will not find many supporters, but I stick to that.
    Off spinners can get a lot more turn by throwing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    Off spinners can get a lot more turn by throwing.
    Yeah but you should be able to do anything within reason. As long as your extended elbow isn't causing the ball to spin abnormally then I fail to see why the rules are so tight on throwing where as ball tampering is used by fast bowlers everywhere and nothing is said??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    Off spinners can get a lot more turn by throwing.
    Which can only be a good thing in a game that is increasingly becoming batsmen friendly.

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    It would undermine every off spinner's achievements up to date, not to mention making comparisons across eras in the future even harder

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    If the rules say he can bend the arm till 15 degrees and he is using 14.5 of them, then fair game for me no matter how bad it may look on TV.

    The Seamers get away in that regard easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cevno View Post
    If the rules say he can bend the arm till 15 degrees and he is using 14.5 of them, then fair game for me no matter how bad it may look on TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cevno View Post
    Feel Ajmal is being underrated here.

    Swann i would rate ahead of him right now, but Ajmal is a pretty tricky spinner who can trouble even the best with his variations.

    Chucking or not doesn't really matter as long as he is allowed to bowl.
    I agree. Ajmal is a very good spinner especially in ODIs. in tests he has failed to be effective and Swann is way ahead.

    Chucking is irrelevant to this debate, but just to make a point, I have an issue only with the doosra - a delivery which is almost impossible to bowl legally - even with the 15 degree limit. Its always possible to bowl it correctly while testing and back to the usual on the field

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    To be fair to Ajmal, he doesn't spin the ball much, so him chucking wouldn't really be a problem.

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