Don't think that's true at all. Flower is/was a far superior keeper to Taibu IMO. I don't understand your comment that "Ray Price doesn't offer much utility with Strang in the team". Can't get much more different roles than that played by an off-spinner and a leg-spinner. Especially when the seam bowling resources are so weak.C_C said:
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All time XI's
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C_C
International Captain
greg said:
Err NO.
Taibu is a significantly superior keeper than Andy.
And by similar roles, i mean that there is little to pick and choose between strang and price but strang can hold a bat. For a team with as weak resources as ZIM, i would look at the bowler's batting as well.
Well we'll just have to disagree about that. Certainly Flower's keeping was pretty questionable earlier in his career, when he was generally pretty reluctant and only required to do it for the sake of the team, but he had improved dramatically by the end and what I saw of his performances in county cricket compared very well with Taibu on the tour of England in 2003. Of course Taibu might have improved by then, but then when the ball never beats the bat and you have few catches to take it's very difficult to tell!C_C said:
Of course the argument that Flower should not keep if it takes anything from his batting is fully justified.
As for the Strang/Price point - well being of similar standard is not a reason to leave one of them out, which you seemed to imply. Your comment was in response to a team which found room for both of them. You wouldn't leave one of Murali and Warne out of a World XI.
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Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Taibu probably should be there somewhere, but there is no-one that he should displace. Campbell is an option, but I dont see anyone else worthy of opening.C_C said:
Barney Rubble
International Coach
All-Time Bangladesh? 
Javed Omar
Aminul Islam
Habibul Bashar
Mohammad Ashraful
Rajin Saleh
Alok Kapali
Khaled Mashud
Manjural Islam
Khaled Mahmud
Mohammad Rafique
Mashrafe Mortaza
Extras:
Hannan Sarkar
Mehrab Hossain
Aftab Ahmed
Tapash Baisya
?????????
Javed Omar
Aminul Islam
Habibul Bashar
Mohammad Ashraful
Rajin Saleh
Alok Kapali
Khaled Mashud
Manjural Islam
Khaled Mahmud
Mohammad Rafique
Mashrafe Mortaza
Extras:
Hannan Sarkar
Mehrab Hossain
Aftab Ahmed
Tapash Baisya
?????????
Chubb
International Regular
Zimbabwe
Kevin Arnott
Grant Flower
Andy Flower
David Houghton
Murray Goodwin
Duncan Fletcher *
Tatenda Taibu +
Heath Streak
Paul Strang
Ray Price
Henry Olonga
12th man (Not that he'd be much use, McGrath didn't call him fat for no reason) Eddo Brandes. I would put Price in my all-time world XI to be honest, but maybePeter Rawson would pip him on a seaming wicket if I was being purely pragmatic.
This is an interesting exercise
Zimbabweans of Colour XI
Dion Ebrahim
Stuart Matsikenyeri
Trevor Madondo (a life tragically cut short)
Hamilton Masakadza (Potentially the best black African batsman in history)
Tatenda Taibu +*
Vusi Sibanda (Use the talent, Vusi!)
Elton Chigumbura
Keith Dabengwa (better test record than Utseya)
Tinashe Panyangara
Henry Olonga
Douggie Hondo
Extras in the squad
Blessing Mahwire
Pommie Mbangwa
Brighton Watambwa
Everton Matambanadzo
Prosper Utseya
I couldn't decide between the four extra seamers and Panyangara, all of them are about the same level, but I gave it to Tinashe because of his immense potential.
Kevin Arnott
Grant Flower
Andy Flower
David Houghton
Murray Goodwin
Duncan Fletcher *
Tatenda Taibu +
Heath Streak
Paul Strang
Ray Price
Henry Olonga
12th man (Not that he'd be much use, McGrath didn't call him fat for no reason) Eddo Brandes. I would put Price in my all-time world XI to be honest, but maybePeter Rawson would pip him on a seaming wicket if I was being purely pragmatic.
This is an interesting exercise
Zimbabweans of Colour XI
Dion Ebrahim
Stuart Matsikenyeri
Trevor Madondo (a life tragically cut short)
Hamilton Masakadza (Potentially the best black African batsman in history)
Tatenda Taibu +*
Vusi Sibanda (Use the talent, Vusi!)
Elton Chigumbura
Keith Dabengwa (better test record than Utseya)
Tinashe Panyangara
Henry Olonga
Douggie Hondo
Extras in the squad
Blessing Mahwire
Pommie Mbangwa
Brighton Watambwa
Everton Matambanadzo
Prosper Utseya
I couldn't decide between the four extra seamers and Panyangara, all of them are about the same level, but I gave it to Tinashe because of his immense potential.
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a massive zebra
International Captain
All those years of experience have given you so many wonderful players to choose from.Barney Rubble said:All-Time Bangladesh?
Javed Omar
Aminul Islam
Habibul Bashar
Mohammad Ashraful
Rajin Saleh
Alok Kapali
Khaled Mashud
Manjural Islam
Khaled Mahmud
Mohammad Rafique
Mashrafe Mortaza
Extras:
Hannan Sarkar
Mehrab Hossain
Aftab Ahmed
Tapash Baisya
?????????
Anyway, who cares, here goes!
Javed Omar
Al Sahariar
Habibul Bashar*
Aminul Islam
Mohammad Ashraful
Rajin Saleh
Khaled Mashud+
Mohammad Rafique
Tapash Baisya
Mashrafe Mortaza
Enamul Haque Jnr
12th Man: Nafis Iqbal
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archie mac
International Coach
I must admit I would not be able to pick a Banga or Zims team off the top of my head, but good to see we have members who can. I have been writing match reports from the Banga and SL current Test series, so I at least know a few of the players now. Which player would rank as the best so far?a massive zebra said:All those years of experience have given you so many wonderful players to choose from.
Anyway, who cares, here goes!
Javed Omar
Al Sahariar
Habibul Bashar*
Aminul Islam
Mohammad Ashraful
Rajin Saleh
Khaled Mashud+
Mohammad Rafique
Tapash Baisya
Mashrafe Mortaza
Enamul Haque Jnr
12th Man: Nafis Iqbal
thierry henry
International Coach
Still on NZ teams? Interesting....
cric_manic
First Class Debutant
All time NZthierry henry said:
CS Dempster
GM Turner
MP Donnelly
MD Crowe
B Sutcliffe
JR Reid*
CL Cairns
ID Smith+
RJ Hadlee
DL Vettori
J Cowie
archie mac
International Coach
I quite like the look of this team, would give most sides a run for their money.cric_manic said:
a massive zebra
International Captain
Not bad. I would drop Reid for either Taylor or Bond to improve the bowling firepower. Reid may have been a legend of early New Zealand cricket, but during his time New Zealand practically never won a match and he was a bits and pieces player really.cric_manic said:
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