***Official*** Pakistan and England in UAE

[Furball]

thanks for googling

Wasn't on google at the time, was going from memory

 

[social]

What do you mean by perfect, Social?

Also, have you been to or played any cricket there in the winter yourself? I don't remember a Test in the UAE in January/February before.

Mid-20s, clear blue skies every day - heaven for all outdoor sports

The only issue might be with the light at the end of the day as it gets dark very quickly in the desert

 

[smash84]

sunset around 5 25 pm or so these days

 

[smash84]

but agree with Social. The weather is awesome these days (and expected to remain like this till mid feb

 

[ganeshran]

Looking forward to the Ajmal vs Swann batte. Would be interesting to see how that goes

 

[Furball]

Looking forward to the Ajmal vs Swann batte. Would be interesting to see how that goes

Swann wins.

 

[smash84]

Swann wins.

ajmal > swann. Fact

 

[Furball]

No.

 

[ganeshran]

Swann wins.

ajmal > swann. Fact

We will find that out after the series for sure. Both are playing in unfriendly conditions against oppositions that have many players not adept at playing spin (with few exceptions). you cant have a more level playing field than this and it would settle the debate of the world's number one spinner in both tests and ODIs

 

[Furball]

We will find that out after the series for sure. Both are playing in unfriendly conditions against oppositions that have many players not adept at playing spin (with few exceptions). you cant have a more level playing field than this and it would settle the debate of the world's number one spinner in both tests and ODIs

The debate was settled a long time ago in Tests.

Lazy stereotyping ftw. Oh, it's England, their players must be rubbish at playing spin.

 

[smash84]

Oh, it's England, their players must be rubbish at playing spin.

This

 

[ganeshran]

The debate was settled a long time ago in Tests.

Lazy stereotyping ftw. Oh, it's England, their players must be rubbish at playing spin.

Its not lazy stereotyping since I am not saying all English players are rubbish at playing spin. I am going by the performance of the current squad most of whom are not comfortable against quality spin bowling. We saw this is in the recent series in the SC.

 

[Furball]

Its not lazy stereotyping since I am not saying all English players are rubbish at playing spin. I am going by the performance of the current squad most of whom are not comfortable against quality spin bowling. We saw this is in the recent series in the SC.

Ah you mean that recent series which was a) an ODI series and b) featured a lot of batsmen not in England's Test XI?

Funny how we'll ignore the Indian spinners getting absolutely hammered in England.

 

[ganeshran]

Ah you mean that recent series which was a) an ODI series and b) featured a lot of batsmen not in England's Test XI?

Funny how we'll ignore the Indian spinners getting absolutely hammered in England.

My post was that the debate will be settled in both tests and ODIs.

India's spin attack in England was so poor, it wouldn't have challenged a club team.

 

[Jacknife]

We will find that out after the series for sure. Both are playing in unfriendly conditions against oppositions that have many players not adept at playing spin (with few exceptions). you cant have a more level playing field than this and it would settle the debate of the world's number one spinner in both tests and ODIs

Just out of interest who do you consider out of England's top 7, crap against spin?

 

[Furball]

My post was that the debate will be settled in both tests and ODIs.

India's spin attack in England was so poor, it wouldn't have challenged a club team.

Rubbish. Ajmal is nowhere near the bowler Swann is in Tests.

I think Swann's a better ODI bowler as well but since I don't particularly give a **** about the format I'm not going to bother arguing that one.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Just out of interest who do you consider out of England's top 6, crap against spin?

Worth adding Prior into this discussion as you could argue he is particularly strong against spin.

 

[Jacknife]

My post was that the debate will be settled in both tests and ODIs.

India's spin attack in England was so poor, it wouldn't have challenged a club team.

It's the same spin attack that played in India against England and against WI or is that your point India have crap spinners.

 

[Jacknife]

Worth adding Prior into this discussion as you could argue he is particularly strong against spin.

Yes mate it was meant to.

 

[ganeshran]

It's the same spin attack that played in India against England and against WI.

It was poor in Windies as well.

In the ODI series, our spinners were Ashwin and Jadeja who bowled quite well.