Players who didn't reach their full potential

gap2 · 10-02-2010, 03:02 AM

Shane Bond, Brett Lee and Shoaib Akhtar would be the obvious ones, they all had the potential to become legendary pace bowlers (though they are all great bowlers respectivley) but with injury getting the best of Bond and Lee, and with Akhtar not being able to handle his personal life they were all unable to reach the full potential which they could have IMO.

So post any cricketers whom you think didn't reach their full potential or in other words underachieved.

King Pietersen · 10-02-2010, 03:07 AM

Do you really need to copy every single bloody PlanetCricket thread to CW?

Kevin Pietersen's beginning to look like he'll never actually reach his potential. He could be the best batsman in the world, but he really hasn't look like that for the last 12 months. Some of that could be down to his achilles injury, but he looked in terrible form for the entire SA tour. Hopefully he'll find some form in Bangladesh and start playing well again. He needs to get that average back up above 50.

vic_orthdox · 10-02-2010, 03:13 AM

Hmm, I think Lee still reached his potential, at least from a physical point of view. He's still played a fair bit of cricket for a pace bowler.

Dano.85 · 10-02-2010, 04:18 AM

Mark ramprakash without a doubt. The guy is a first class run machine.

Kylez · 10-02-2010, 04:19 AM

Greg Blewett didn't fill all of his potential.

GuyFromLancs · 10-02-2010, 04:39 AM

Kevin Pietersen- Has played poorly for most of the last 2 years. A time when he should be reaching is prime

Flintoff- Injuries, fitness and an unwillingness to accept towards the tail of his career that he was a better bowler than a batsman

Damien Martyn- All the shots and all the time to play them, but seemed to lack the mental strength to make it work and become world class

Shane Bond- Injuries

Yurav- Looks like, besides a few cameos, he will squander a great natural talent

Asif- problems with authority

Carl Hooper- Looked like a world beater, very average stats.

Atherton- In a different time he could have been so much more

GuyFromLancs · 10-02-2010, 04:46 AM

Afridi- Could have done more in tests

Inzi- Should have averaged well over 50. Still a very good player though

Harmison- Could go from unplayable to the worst bowler in the world in a matter of months

Simon Jones- Injuries

Hick- The king of first class cricket, poor test player

Caddick- Had all the ingrediants to be all over batsman, but mental strength again seemed to let him down

slowfinger · 10-02-2010, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Pietersen

Do you really need to copy every single bloody PlanetCricket thread to CW?

Kevin Pietersen's beginning to look like he'll never actually reach his potential. He could be the best batsman in the world, but he really hasn't look like that for the last 12 months. Some of that could be down to his achilles injury, but he looked in terrible form for the entire SA tour. Hopefully he'll find some form in Bangladesh and start playing well again. He needs to get that average back up above 50.

Never, just, no. He'll never be a great but he could be good, end of.

Richard · 10-02-2010, 11:12 AM

Disagree with most of the names mentioned so far TBH but Carl Hooper and Andrew Caddick are bang-on IMO. Hooper simply can't really have any viable explanation proferred; Caddick was badly handled by selectors. Abysmally handled, in fact.

GuyFromLancs · 10-02-2010, 11:30 AM

Who do you disagree with, Richard?

Richard · 10-02-2010, 11:35 AM

Lee, Shoaib, Bond, Ramprakash, Yuvraj, Martyn, Afridi, Harmison, Inzamam-ul-Haq.

Hick is a questionable case, because he certainly lost-out through utterly dismal selectorial handling to some extent, but I'm far from sure he ever really had it in him to be a top-class Test batsman over a really lengthy time (he of course was such a thing for a relatively short period of 3 years). Simon Jones too I'm not sure about.

Pietersen and Asif both, hopefully, have more of their careers ahead of than behind them. So I don't think it'd be wise to assess them as of yet. Some have only said Pietersen's looking like joining the clan, which is fair enough; some have intimated he already has, which I don't agree with.

GuyFromLancs · 10-02-2010, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard

Lee, Shoaib, Bond, Ramprakash, Yuvraj, Martyn, Afridi, Harmison, Inzamam-ul-Haq.

Hick is a questionable case, because he certainly lost-out through utterly dismal selectorial handling to some extent, but I'm far from sure he ever really had it in him to be a top-class Test batsman over a really lengthy time (he of course was such a thing for a relatively short period of 3 years). Simon Jones too I'm not sure about.

Pietersen and Asif both, hopefully, have more of their careers ahead of than behind them. So I don't think it'd be wise to assess them as of yet. Some have only said Pietersen's looking like joining the clan, which is fair enough; some have intimated he already has, which I don't agree with.

Shoaib- Probably needed to more of the same. His career has been okay in short bursts.

Bond- A fantastic bowler. I can't see how you disagree with this one.

Ramps- Simply didn't have it for the top level. No argument from me there.

I stick by Martyn, Harmison and potentially Yurav.

bagapath · 10-02-2010, 11:58 AM

pietersen has scored 16 centuries and averages 48 in test cricket. if he is not one of the greatest players of all time at least he is certainly one of the greatest england has ever had. no way he could be compared with the asifs and bonds who didnt do enough justice to their natural talents.

L Trumper · 10-02-2010, 12:08 PM

No matter how much they score players like Gower, M Waugh, Hooper seems like they never achieved their full potential.

Richard · 10-02-2010, 12:24 PM

I believe that completely with Mark Waugh - as with Hooper. With Gower I think he did as well as he could have. Gower was one of those incredibly rare players who could just rock-up and bat, he hardly needed to practice all career. I don't believe that someone forcing him into practicing more would've helped; in fact, maybe, quite the opposite, for he needed to be relaxed to perform.

10-02-2010, 03:02 AM	#1 (permalink)
gap2 Banned Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: india Posts: 19	Players who didn't reach their full potential Shane Bond, Brett Lee and Shoaib Akhtar would be the obvious ones, they all had the potential to become legendary pace bowlers (though they are all great bowlers respectivley) but with injury getting the best of Bond and Lee, and with Akhtar not being able to handle his personal life they were all unable to reach the full potential which they could have IMO. So post any cricketers whom you think didn't reach their full potential or in other words underachieved.

10-02-2010, 03:07 AM	#2 (permalink)
King Pietersen International Regular Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Suffolk, England Posts: 3,339	Do you really need to copy every single bloody PlanetCricket thread to CW? Kevin Pietersen's beginning to look like he'll never actually reach his potential. He could be the best batsman in the world, but he really hasn't look like that for the last 12 months. Some of that could be down to his achilles injury, but he looked in terrible form for the entire SA tour. Hopefully he'll find some form in Bangladesh and start playing well again. He needs to get that average back up above 50. Last edited by King Pietersen; 10-02-2010 at 04:00 AM.

10-02-2010, 04:39 AM	#6 (permalink)
GuyFromLancs U19 Debutant Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Lancashire Posts: 327	Kevin Pietersen- Has played poorly for most of the last 2 years. A time when he should be reaching is prime Flintoff- Injuries, fitness and an unwillingness to accept towards the tail of his career that he was a better bowler than a batsman Damien Martyn- All the shots and all the time to play them, but seemed to lack the mental strength to make it work and become world class Shane Bond- Injuries Yurav- Looks like, besides a few cameos, he will squander a great natural talent Asif- problems with authority Carl Hooper- Looked like a world beater, very average stats. Atherton- In a different time he could have been so much more __________________ Keeping it real

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10-02-2010, 03:13 AM	#3 (permalink)
vic_orthdox Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 24,363	Hmm, I think Lee still reached his potential, at least from a physical point of view. He's still played a fair bit of cricket for a pace bowler.

10-02-2010, 04:18 AM	#4 (permalink)
Dano.85 School Boy/Girl Cricketer Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: East garston Posts: 84	Mark ramprakash without a doubt. The guy is a first class run machine.

10-02-2010, 04:19 AM	#5 (permalink)
Kylez State Vice-Captain Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Shire Posts: 1,392	Greg Blewett didn't fill all of his potential.

10-02-2010, 04:46 AM	#7 (permalink)
GuyFromLancs U19 Debutant Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Lancashire Posts: 327	Afridi- Could have done more in tests Inzi- Should have averaged well over 50. Still a very good player though Harmison- Could go from unplayable to the worst bowler in the world in a matter of months Simon Jones- Injuries Hick- The king of first class cricket, poor test player Caddick- Had all the ingrediants to be all over batsman, but mental strength again seemed to let him down

10-02-2010, 11:30 AM	#10 (permalink)
GuyFromLancs U19 Debutant Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Lancashire Posts: 327	Who do you disagree with, Richard?

10-02-2010, 11:35 AM	#11 (permalink)
Richard Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 2005 Posts: 80,407	Lee, Shoaib, Bond, Ramprakash, Yuvraj, Martyn, Afridi, Harmison, Inzamam-ul-Haq. Hick is a questionable case, because he certainly lost-out through utterly dismal selectorial handling to some extent, but I'm far from sure he ever really had it in him to be a top-class Test batsman over a really lengthy time (he of course was such a thing for a relatively short period of 3 years). Simon Jones too I'm not sure about. Pietersen and Asif both, hopefully, have more of their careers ahead of than behind them. So I don't think it'd be wise to assess them as of yet. Some have only said Pietersen's looking like joining the clan, which is fair enough; some have intimated he already has, which I don't agree with.

10-02-2010, 11:58 AM	#13 (permalink)
bagapath International Vice-Captain Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,614	pietersen has scored 16 centuries and averages 48 in test cricket. if he is not one of the greatest players of all time at least he is certainly one of the greatest england has ever had. no way he could be compared with the asifs and bonds who didnt do enough justice to their natural talents.

10-02-2010, 12:08 PM	#14 (permalink)
L Trumper First Class Debutant Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: New York Posts: 870	No matter how much they score players like Gower, M Waugh, Hooper seems like they never achieved their full potential.

10-02-2010, 12:24 PM	#15 (permalink)
Richard Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 2005 Posts: 80,407	I believe that completely with Mark Waugh - as with Hooper. With Gower I think he did as well as he could have. Gower was one of those incredibly rare players who could just rock-up and bat, he hardly needed to practice all career. I don't believe that someone forcing him into practicing more would've helped; in fact, maybe, quite the opposite, for he needed to be relaxed to perform.

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