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    Cricinfo - Bollinger weighs up England options

    Bollinger considers English cricet too.

    Going at this rate, the Ashes might be played between Australia and Australia in a few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metallics2006 View Post
    Cricinfo - Bollinger weighs up England options

    Bollinger considers English cricet too.

    Going at this rate, the Ashes might be played between Australia and Australia in a few years.
    Yeah, as in Bollinger is weighing up playing county cricket as an international player.

    Tait is planning on going over as an English player, using his parentage. Big difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vic_orthdox View Post
    Yeah, as in Bollinger is weighing up playing county cricket as an international player.

    Tait is planning on going over as an English player, using his parentage. Big difference.
    Oops. My bad. Just read the headline and not the article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vic_orthdox View Post
    At least he was able to perform over a domestic season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    May as well play for NZ.
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    He's had enough injury problems as it is.
    Piss off. I'd rather Mitchell McClennaghan or Hamish Bennet get presented the silver fern in a rubbish bag than an Australian who has a jerky knee and a breakable body, also one who has rarely shown any consistency whatsoever, let alone a decent economy rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    That isn't the point though - the point is that if you've not received a contract (out of 25 names) it's a fairly sure indication that you're a fair way down the pecking-order. And if such a thing is the case, it's a bit rich to have stopped you playing in some mickey-mouse tournament.
    It doesn't necessarily mean he isn't in their thoughts. Warner doesn't have a contract and he is in their T20 WC squad. It's just that if you don't play first class cricket, and you don't intend to, you go way down their ratings system, because that uses all three forms.

    I don't think Tait's been that hard done by. They paid him a contract for months whilst he was taking a break from the game to support him, so it's not as if they've dropped him as soon as he got injured.

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    Personally I can see where CA are coming from. They appear to be taking the long-term view and see his inclusion as the IPL as a potential setback to his future health, which to be honest would be more than likely with his past. Tait is looking purely at short term gains, yes it was a lot of money for him, and he has been left out of the Australian contract list, but understandably so after his recent probelms. He needs to remain injury free, play some proper cricket and get back in their thoughts, the door is certainly not shut on his international career should he show the right sttitiude to get back to where he was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodster View Post
    Personally I can see where CA are coming from. They appear to be taking the long-term view and see his inclusion as the IPL as a potential setback to his future health, which to be honest would be more than likely with his past. Tait is looking purely at short term gains, yes it was a lot of money for him, and he has been left out of the Australian contract list, but understandably so after his recent probelms. He needs to remain injury free, play some proper cricket and get back in their thoughts, the door is certainly not shut on his international career should he show the right sttitiude to get back to where he was.
    Funny how long-term sustainability disappear when $400,000 is dangled in front of you.

    Best thing for Tait is to take things easy over the winter break. Head back to South Australia, and take big bags of wickets. He has a good supporting cast of bowlers in South Australia, still every chance of repeating his 65 wicket domestic season.

    He still remains ever so close to Australian selection. Hilditch has acknowledged this, Tait just needs to put some hard yards in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbacks View Post
    another SA player unhappy with **** treatment from CA, prepared to speak out about it and possibly earn a cross through his name, who would have thought
    As done by Ashley Noffke
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    Noffke reputedly had the cross next to his name before he vented his annoyance in public however.

    Feel for Tait here. Goughy's right about being in contract or not but as a boss, if you want a decent long term relationship, you can't screw people like happened here. And clearly it hasn't been communicated to Tait in a way that has reassured him. And not that he should get special treatment because of it, but in considering how they handled this issue, CA should have thought about the fact that this is a bloke who has already got so jaded/unhappy in the game once that he's withdrawn from playing. If he's just starting to get back into playing regularly and enjoying it, and you want to have a decent relationship with him, encourage him, don't screw him over.

    Tait would have had to be even prior to this episode, the Australian player most likely to opt out of national duties in favour of the IPL. His extreme pace would make him a draw card there, and he'd demand $$$ for that factor alone ("160kph" is a pretty effective marketing tool, especially it must be said in the subcontinent). He was already on the record as saying that he feels he a better bowler in 20/20 and ODIs than FC or Tests. And he was already on the record as saying he didn't enjoy what was required for him to stay fit year around to play cricket. Earning enough money to make a decent living in 2 months of work would be a natural for him.

    Against this background, not cutting him slack to go to IPL, or else not to give him a contract or some form of encouragement that there's a long term role for him in the national set-up beyond the "keep working hard and perform and you'll give yourself every chance", which applies to every cricketer not in the team, doesn't seem the smartest move for CA, if they want the option of a fit and firing Tait available for consideration.
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    From the content of the article i think the title of the thread should have been "Shaun Tait to go Greek (but the missus is having none of it)"
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    Weird in a way that Tait's got this whole T20 specialist thing going on, yet in his whole career he's only actually played 11 T20 matches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodster View Post
    Personally I can see where CA are coming from. They appear to be taking the long-term view and see his inclusion as the IPL as a potential setback to his future health, which to be honest would be more than likely with his past. Tait is looking purely at short term gains, yes it was a lot of money for him, and he has been left out of the Australian contract list, but understandably so after his recent probelms. He needs to remain injury free, play some proper cricket and get back in their thoughts, the door is certainly not shut on his international career should he show the right sttitiude to get back to where he was.
    Considering the amount of injuries he has had by now, it is unrealistic to expect that Tait will have a long and uninterrupted International career for Australia like McGrath or Warne. And at 26 years, he may have only at the maximum 4-6 years of peak body condition. Hence he is perfectly right in choosing the mode which can satisfy his monetary requirements without taking a huge toll on his body or his chances of playing for his country, as the IPL is just 2 months long.

    I can fully understand the reasons behind his omission from CA contract list, but had he been injury free as he claims at the beginning of the IPL, then he has a righteous grievance at being shortchanged by CA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smith View Post
    Considering the amount of injuries he has had by now, it is unrealistic to expect that Tait will have a long and uninterrupted International career for Australia like McGrath or Warne. And at 26 years, he may have only at the maximum 4-6 years of peak body condition. Hence he is perfectly right in choosing the mode which can satisfy his monetary requirements without taking a huge toll on his body or his chances of playing for his country, as the IPL is just 2 months long.

    I can fully understand the reasons behind his omission from CA contract list, but had he been injury free as he claims at the beginning of the IPL, then he has a righteous grievance at being shortchanged by CA.
    I'm not suggesting that Tait is at fault for wanting to chase the dollar, and perhaps if he would be thinking of shelving his Test ambitions for now, then this discussion should have taken place with the selection committee. If he still harvours ambitions of Test cricket in the none-too-distant future, then missing out on the IPL should be no great drama's, it makes sense for him to miss it.

    He still has things to offer Australia, and the best way that CA see that happening is to wrap him up in a bit of cotton wool short term, while his body becomes re-acquainted with the vigours of first-class cricket. While he was contracted to CA it was absolutely their right to decide what he should or shouldn't play in.

    I feel, and I may be well wide of the mark, that better lines of communication between all concerned may have resulted in a more satisfactory and understanding (from both sides) outcome.

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    I'm new to cricket - but ...

    It seems a bit short-sighted to arch up a player for wanting to play in the shorter forms of the game. One-day and especially Twenty20 is a great way to get people who usually hate cricket getting involved in the game, whether it's attending,watching on TV or playing the game. I can relate to these people - I used to be one. The way I used to view cricket was a boring, long monotonous game where rarely anything exciting happened... it was on TV all day and you basically couldn't talk to your dad/brother/boyfriend while it was on.

    Now that I work for a cricket association (irony?) and learning about the game a bit more I am starting to understand the appeal, especially with the shorter forms of the game and sometimes shield matches...

    Taity was just saying what all cricket marketers are thinking/strategizing. The shorter forms of the game are what bring new fans to the game, esp females. Cricket is no longer boring and reserved for up-tight nuffs who wear bow-ties. Getting females and more young kids involved in the game will create cricketers/fans in the future. It's where the money is and possibly the future of the game, even if 'traditionalists' don't like it. (but this is prob a whole other topic!)

    I'm not going to comment on what Taity (Corey will pay me out for calling him that) said, but...

    Forget what the newspapers have been saying, form your own opinions by listening to the raw audio from the Shaun Tait all-in with the media last Friday afternoon, straight from our own recorder:
    SACA - South Australian Cricket Association - Media - Shaun Tait speaks about Cricket Australia's contract list for next season

    Listen to what he said in its original context and without the media beat-up

    Discuss.
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