J.P. Duminy Opinions & Predictions

[grapedo]

What do you think of J.P. Duminy does he have a bright future and can he develop into a great ?

 

[gettingbetter]

If FC records and his performances in the limited number of ODIs he has thus far, he appears to be on the verge of being a very good player. I've liked what I've seen of him so far in ODIs, seems really composed and has a wide variety of shots.

Only issues is that he won't get a game for a while I don't think. South Africa appear to have a relatively solid line-up, and now with MacKenzie, Amla and AB scoring runs, he will only get into the team with if any get injured or if Prince retires soon. But he is easily, the next one off the rank.

 

[Richard]

Duminy being picked for the wrong game-form isn't helping him, but TBH I think he's got more shots and a better technique than just about anyone apart from Kallis in the current SA side. If de Villiers is going to bat down the order, I don't really see why he isn't given the gloves with Duminy replacing Boucher.

 

[grapedo]

Duminy being picked for the wrong game-form isn't helping him, but TBH I think he's got more shots and a better technique than just about anyone apart from Kallis in the current SA side. If de Villiers is going to bat down the order, I don't really see why he isn't given the gloves with Duminy replacing Boucher.

Maybe because Boucher is the best wicket keeper of all time. He shouldn't be just forced out of the team like that although that could happen when he retires.

 

[Richard]

Hahahaha... no, Boucher isn't the greatest wicketkeeper of all-time. He's a good, solid merchant who doesn't miss much and no more.

And even if he was the greatest wicketkeeper of all-time that'd mean diddly-squat if his batting wasn't up-to-scratch. You get more from a good wicketkeeper (I've seen nothing to suggest ABdeV isn't such a thing) and two high-class Test batsmen than a brilliant wicketkeeper, one Test-class batsman and a useful lower-order player.

 

[kingkallis]

Hahahaha... no, Boucher isn't the greatest wicketkeeper of all-time. He's a good, solid merchant who doesn't miss much and no more.

And even if he was the greatest wicketkeeper of all-time that'd mean diddly-squat if his batting wasn't up-to-scratch. You get more from a good wicketkeeper (I've seen nothing to suggest ABdeV isn't such a thing) and two high-class Test batsmen than a brilliant wicketkeeper, one Test-class batsman and a useful lower-order player.

Boucher surely is one of the best world of Cricket ever witnessed!

About his batting, he did well in 3rd game against England...if he hadnt stayed there @ the crease with Smith, England would have easily won that game!

 

[grapedo]

Hahahaha... no, Boucher isn't the greatest wicketkeeper of all-time. He's a good, solid merchant who doesn't miss much and no more.

And even if he was the greatest wicketkeeper of all-time that'd mean diddly-squat if his batting wasn't up-to-scratch. You get more from a good wicketkeeper (I've seen nothing to suggest ABdeV isn't such a thing) and two high-class Test batsmen than a brilliant wicketkeeper, one Test-class batsman and a useful lower-order player.

Test matches

Most catches in career

Player Span Mat Inns Dis Ct St Max Dis Inns Dis/Inn
MV Boucher (ICC/SA) 1997-2008 119 227 454 434 20 6 (6ct 0st) 2.000
AC Gilchrist (Aus) 1999-2008 96 191 416 379 37 5 (5ct 0st) 2.178
IA Healy (Aus) 1988-1999 119 224 395 366 29 6 (6ct 0st) 1.763
RW Marsh (Aus) 1970-1984 96 182 355 343 12 6 (6ct 0st) 1.950
PJL Dujon (WI) 1981-1991 81 150 270 265 5 5 (5ct 0st) 1.800
APE Knott (Eng) 1967-1981 95 174 269 250 19 5 (4ct 1st) 1.545
AJ Stewart (Eng) 1990-2003 133 141 241 227 14 6 (6ct 0st) 1.709
RD Jacobs (WI) 1998-2004 65 122 219 207 12 7 (7ct 0st) 1.795
Wasim Bari (Pak) 1967-1984 81 146 228 201 27 7 (7ct 0st) 1.561
AC Parore (NZ) 1990-2002 78 121 201 194 7

Test matches

Most dismissals in career

Player Span Mat Inns Dis Ct St Max Dis Inns Dis/Inn
MV Boucher (ICC/SA) 1997-2008 119 227 454 434 20 6 (6ct 0st) 2.000
AC Gilchrist (Aus) 1999-2008 96 191 416 379 37 5 (5ct 0st) 2.178
IA Healy (Aus) 1988-1999 119 224 395 366 29 6 (6ct 0st) 1.763
RW Marsh (Aus) 1970-1984 96 182 355 343 12 6 (6ct 0st) 1.950
PJL Dujon (WI) 1981-1991 81 150 270 265 5 5 (5ct 0st) 1.800
APE Knott (Eng) 1967-1981 95 174 269 250 19 5 (4ct 1st) 1.545
AJ Stewart (Eng) 1990-2003 133 141 241 227 14 6 (6ct 0st) 1.709
Wasim Bari (Pak) 1967-1984 81 146 228 201 27 7 (7ct 0st) 1.561
RD Jacobs (WI) 1998-2004 65 122 219 207 12 7 (7ct 0st) 1.795
Hmmm sure looks like an okay keeper to me. And Keppler Wessels is always expressing concern about what they will do when boucher leaves as he is a better keeper than de villiers. And De Villiers dosen't keep to often anymore.

 

[grapedo]

And Boucher has hit 28 50s and 4 100s in his test career. So why just leave himout of the side to replace with a worse keeper. Duminy should be aiming for the spots of mackenzie, amla and prince not hoping they will drop the best wicket keeper of all time to give him a go. When Boucher retires that is fine do it then but you can't force him out.

 

[andruid]

Duminy being picked for the wrong game-form isn't helping him, but TBH I think he's got more shots and a better technique than just about anyone apart from Kallis in the current SA side. If de Villiers is going to bat down the order, I don't really see why he isn't given the gloves with Duminy replacing Boucher.

That probably will happen when Boucher hangs up his gloves. Do not know if it will be bad for De villier's batting average.

 

[andruid]

And Boucher has hit 28 50s and 4 100s in his test career. So why just leave himout of the side to replace with a worse keeper. Duminy should be aiming for the spots of mackenzie, amla and prince not hoping they will drop the best wicket keeper of all time to give him a go. When Boucher retires that is fine do it then but you can't force him out.

Boucher is a world class keeper but that does not mean AB can't keep. though in the long run he would probably be best served to focus his energies on batting

 

[Rant0r]

yeah don't know if i'd like to burden devilliers with that, but then he may well handle it well, no other keepers in SA ?

 

[Richard]

Test matches

Most catches in career

Player Span Mat Inns Dis Ct St Max Dis Inns Dis/Inn
MV Boucher (ICC/SA) 1997-2008 119 227 454 434 20 6 (6ct 0st) 2.000
AC Gilchrist (Aus) 1999-2008 96 191 416 379 37 5 (5ct 0st) 2.178
IA Healy (Aus) 1988-1999 119 224 395 366 29 6 (6ct 0st) 1.763
RW Marsh (Aus) 1970-1984 96 182 355 343 12 6 (6ct 0st) 1.950
PJL Dujon (WI) 1981-1991 81 150 270 265 5 5 (5ct 0st) 1.800
APE Knott (Eng) 1967-1981 95 174 269 250 19 5 (4ct 1st) 1.545
AJ Stewart (Eng) 1990-2003 133 141 241 227 14 6 (6ct 0st) 1.709
RD Jacobs (WI) 1998-2004 65 122 219 207 12 7 (7ct 0st) 1.795
Wasim Bari (Pak) 1967-1984 81 146 228 201 27 7 (7ct 0st) 1.561
AC Parore (NZ) 1990-2002 78 121 201 194 7

Test matches

Most dismissals in career

Player Span Mat Inns Dis Ct St Max Dis Inns Dis/Inn
MV Boucher (ICC/SA) 1997-2008 119 227 454 434 20 6 (6ct 0st) 2.000
AC Gilchrist (Aus) 1999-2008 96 191 416 379 37 5 (5ct 0st) 2.178
IA Healy (Aus) 1988-1999 119 224 395 366 29 6 (6ct 0st) 1.763
RW Marsh (Aus) 1970-1984 96 182 355 343 12 6 (6ct 0st) 1.950
PJL Dujon (WI) 1981-1991 81 150 270 265 5 5 (5ct 0st) 1.800
APE Knott (Eng) 1967-1981 95 174 269 250 19 5 (4ct 1st) 1.545
AJ Stewart (Eng) 1990-2003 133 141 241 227 14 6 (6ct 0st) 1.709
Wasim Bari (Pak) 1967-1984 81 146 228 201 27 7 (7ct 0st) 1.561
RD Jacobs (WI) 1998-2004 65 122 219 207 12 7 (7ct 0st) 1.795
Hmmm sure looks like an okay keeper to me.

Yes, because he is an OK keeper. He's a damn good one in fact.

You, however, need to learn the difference between "taking most catches and stumpings" and "being the best wicketkeeper ever". Catches and stumpings are entirely dependant on how many you're offered - ie, how many matches you play and what type of bowler you have bowling at you.

It's how many (or, rather, few) chances you miss, not how many you take, that shows how good a wicketkeeper you are.

 

[Langeveldt]

He's a good player, but I don't think he will develop into a great one

 

[grapedo]

Yes, because he is an OK keeper. He's a damn good one in fact.

You, however, need to learn the difference between "taking most catches and stumpings" and "being the best wicketkeeper ever". Catches and stumpings are entirely dependant on how many you're offered - ie, how many matches you play and what type of bowler you have bowling at you.

It's how many (or, rather, few) chances you miss, not how many you take, that shows how good a wicketkeeper you are.

Okay well you said in your first post he didn't miss much. So obviously my point still stands. He has had very unpredictable bowlers like ntini and donald to contend with.

 

[sanga1337]

Okay well you said in your first post he didn't miss much. So obviously my point still stands. He has had very unpredictable bowlers like ntini and donald to contend with.

How the hell are Ntini and Donald unpredictable? They would probably be one of the easier bowlers to keep to as there both consistant bowlers. If anything what would possibly stop Boucher from being considered a great is the fact that he hasn't really needed to keep to a lot of quality spinners to often, and as anyone who has kept wicket will tell you, its a lot harder keeping to spin then pace.

 

[grapedo]

How the hell are Ntini and Donald unpredictable? They would probably be one of the easier bowlers to keep to as there both consistant bowlers. If anything what would possibly stop Boucher from being considered a great is the fact that he hasn't really needed to keep to a lot of quality spinners to often, and as anyone who has kept wicket will tell you, its a lot harder keeping to spin then pace.

Well he also holds the record for the least amount of byes let through in a series in india. This really convince me what a terrific player he is.

 

[grapedo]

also proof that he is the best wicket keeper of all time.

 

[Richard]

Used this before but:

Your stupidity is beyond comprehension.

It just keeps applying.

 

[grapedo]

Why ? Becuase I have proved he is yeah that makes sense.

 

[Richard]

The fact you think various things prove something they have never come remotely close to proving nor will ever come remotely close to proving.