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    Vaughan not good enough for OD

    England have named their squad for the OD series against Australia and Sri Lanka.

    The squad is N.Hussain(c), K.Ali, I.Blackwell, A.Caddick, P.Collingwood, A.Flintoff, S.Harmison, R.Irani, R.Key, R.Kirtley, N.Knight, O.Shah, J.Snape, A.Stewart, M.Trescothick, C.White...

    The main omissions were M.Vaughan :O:O:O:O:O M.Butcher and R.Dawson...

    What i can't believe is how they can leave out their best batsman???
    I mean yeah its a different game but he is the only batsman who has really looked comfortable against the Aussie bowlers and the ball that has had him in trouble (bouncer) would not trouble him as much in the one dayers...
    What do u english think, should he be there????

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    He played well in the one dayers against NZ when England were here.
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    Don't worry GB Iam sure one of the English batsman will no doubt pick up an injury in the two warm up games and M.Vaughan will be back

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    He's being rested to allow his knee and shoulder to recover for the Fourth Test.
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    whats the point of that? they have already lost the test series so why dont they rest him for that and try and win the one day series? doesnt hat seem more logical?

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    He's knackered so it's fine to give him a rest, especially as he's never really been a great OD batsman. Butcher left out as he again is not a OD player and Dawson...because he's thought of as more of a Test bowler. Anyway Snape takes his place in the ODI Squad. Interisting to see how Blackwell and Kabir Ali do...
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    I dont see how the Poms could be happy from any perspective. He has easily been their best batsmen against the Aussies, and just because its a different style of game, it's still the same basic batsmen v bowler game.

    I'd say he's been dropped to allow him to rest up and try and make something of the last two tests. I think the Pom's would rather win the last two tests than win the One Day series, even though they'll probably do neither.

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    Hollioake is set to play in Flintoff's place.

    Amazingly Butcher has never played an ODI, despite his medium pace option being useful.

    Right to leave Vaughan IMO, he needs a break.

    Kabir Ali, that's an interesting one - another I predicted 6 months back but never revealed...
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    Hehe and you (Marc) all dogged the subject of Kent's R.Key being rewarded for a good tour with a place in the One Day side.

    *Waits for Marc to tell me how poor Key is at the One Day game and how he will never make it* :P

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    Originally posted by hourn
    I dont see how the Poms could be happy from any perspective. He has easily been their best batsmen against the Aussies, and just because its a different style of game, it's still the same basic batsmen v bowler game.

    I'd say he's been dropped to allow him to rest up and try and make something of the last two tests. I think the Pom's would rather win the last two tests than win the One Day series, even though they'll probably do neither.
    Just because he's our best Test Batsman doesn't mean that he's our best ODI Batsman...he's not really put any scores together really and averages only 19.70 with the bat...also if you've got a bad knee, one of the worst things is to run around in a ODI...it's gonna damage your knee even more!

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    Originally posted by broncoman
    whats the point of that? they have already lost the test series so why dont they rest him for that and try and win the one day series? doesnt hat seem more logical?
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    Originally posted by Rik
    Originally posted by hourn
    I dont see how the Poms could be happy from any perspective. He has easily been their best batsmen against the Aussies, and just because its a different style of game, it's still the same basic batsmen v bowler game.

    I'd say he's been dropped to allow him to rest up and try and make something of the last two tests. I think the Pom's would rather win the last two tests than win the One Day series, even though they'll probably do neither.
    Just because he's our best Test Batsman doesn't mean that he's our best ODI Batsman...he's not really put any scores together really and averages only 19.70 with the bat...also if you've got a bad knee, one of the worst things is to run around in a ODI...it's gonna damage your knee even more!
    i thought he must have had in injury of some sought, in which case its probably best to have him rest.

    If he was fit though, you'd have to have him in there.

    Matty Hayden had done nothing in ODI, but after he's great form in the test scene, we stuck him in the ODI team and he's really turned it on there.

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    Originally posted by hourn
    i thought he must have had in injury of some sought, in which case its probably best to have him rest.

    If he was fit though, you'd have to have him in there.

    Matty Hayden had done nothing in ODI, but after he's great form in the test scene, we stuck him in the ODI team and he's really turned it on there.
    Yes but I don't quite think Vaughan can, ok I feel Vaughan has done really well in the Test Series, Hayden has faced a weak England attack and Vaughan has had to face Warne, Gillespie and McGrath. But Vaughan just gets out too much in ODIs.

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    Originally posted by Mr Mxyzptlk
    Originally posted by broncoman
    whats the point of that? they have already lost the test series so why dont they rest him for that and try and win the one day series? doesnt hat seem more logical?
    Long term gain is better than short term gain. Finally the English selectors are realizing that. Don't risk getting your best batsman further injured to salvage a tour you've already conceded.
    Yeah maybe but wouldn't that mean rest him rather than keep playing him in the Test series and destroy his knee all together????

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    if crawley is fit in time for the fourth test they dont need to risk Vaughan do they. Key is a natural opener and im sure he would perform even better than he has.

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