marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
Is Gilchrist now a specialist bat then?Beleg said:Has Gilchrist never batted at seven? How many times has that saved Australia's backside?
No, he's a keeper-batsman.
Is Gilchrist now a specialist bat then?Beleg said:Has Gilchrist never batted at seven? How many times has that saved Australia's backside?
Nothing selective about it, it is part of how I judge players. I did not search for anything, I just went straight for my criteria and that came out. I did not know about Chanderpaul in draws until I put it in.Sanz said:Chanders averages 55 in matches won and that is good enough for me. I must commend you though for finding amazingly selectively reading arguments to suit your opinion.
You cannot just take that 55 without looking at the average in games lost. That is because they are comparable as 20 wickets are lost.Sanz said:Chanders averages 55 in matches won and that is good enough for me. I must commend you though for finding amazingly selectively reading arguments to suit your opinion.
Good experience for him.stumpski said:Incidentally, Dwayne Bravo's having a surprisingly tough time of it in county cricket. 167 runs at 33 and one wicket for 283. Maybe should have turned out for Lashings instead.
Gilchrist is a specialist batsman who happens to be a specialist keeper as well. Are you saying he isn't among the top seven batsmen in Australia and won't hold his place based on his batting alone?Is Gilchrist now a specialist bat then?
No, he's a keeper-batsman.
I agree that the West Indies batting lineup is not that good at all. On potential it's incredible, but the fact remains that only Brian Lara and Shivnarine Chanderpaul have contributed with any real consistency in recent years. Potential is meaningless in the grand scheme.Goughy said:Tresco does not really cash in on flat tracks and when the game isnt on the line. If you wanted an English example the best one is Vaughan.
My issue with this thread is about how overrated WI batting is. You write in your post that Chanderpaul has often had little significant support. Yet others are talking about how good the unit of Gayle, Lara, Sarwan, Chanderpaul and recently Bravo is.
It cant be both ways. I do not deny that Chanderpaul is a good player (I think I have mentioned that in every post) but my problem is that the bowling is getting a lot of criticism when the batting deserves equally as much.
Check my earlier post about how WI have by far the lowest team batting average of any Test standard team.