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    All time Australia XI vs all time West Indies XI

    I have come up with another all time Australia XI to face this time an all time West Indies XI. What do you think of it and how do you think I could improve my sides.

    Australia:

    Victor Trumper
    Bill Ponsford
    Don Bradman
    Greg Chapell
    Steve Waugh (cpt)
    Keith Miller
    Adam Gilchrist (wkt)
    Ray Lindwall
    Shane Warne
    Dennis Lillie
    Glenn Mcgrath

    12TH MAN: Alan Border

    West Indies:

    Frank Worrell (cpt)
    Viv Richards
    Brian Lara
    George Headley
    Everton Weekes
    Gary Sobers
    Clyde Walcott (wkt)
    Malcom Marshall
    Michael Holding
    Joel Garner
    Curtly Ambrose

    12TH MAN: Clive Lloyd

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    They look like a great match up.

    I think a leftie in the Australian top order would help, Harvey, Border or Hill. Or maybe you could open with Bardsley or Morris.

    I don't like the opening set up for the Windies. And maybe a spin bowler Gibbs or those little pals of mine. Though you do have Sobers.
    You know it makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archie mac
    I don't like the opening set up for the Windies.
    Yeah, although I don't envy his job. There are that many wonderful middle order batsmen for the Windies that deserve selection of Haynes and Greenidge as out and out batsmen, and as such it's probably fair enough to see them displaced.

    Would have loved to have seen Viv opening the batting in ODIs these days, since the focus on hitting while there are fielding restrictions came in.
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    And maybe a spin bowler Gibbs or those little pals of mine.
    If you were picking an all-time Windies side, it would be a travesty to not have four pace bowlers.

    And would have the Windies bowling line-up ever have played with each other?

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    My windies team would be:

    Hunte
    Richards
    Headley
    Lara
    Weekes
    Sobers
    Walcott (to offset the Advantage the Ozzies have with Gilchrist)
    Marshall
    Holding
    Garner
    Ambrose

    Over 5 tests home and away i think both teams would win in their own backyards but not by much.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vic_orthdox
    And would have the Windies bowling line-up ever have played with each other?
    Must have come close, my gut feeling is no.

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    My teams would be...

    AUSTRALIA

    Victor Trumper
    Arthur Morris
    Don Bradman*
    Greg Chappell
    Neil Harvey
    Keith Miller
    Adam Gilchrist+
    Ray Lindwall
    Denis Lillee
    Bill O'Reilly
    Glenn McGrath

    12th Man: Shane Warne

    WEST INDIES

    Conrad Hunte
    Viv Richards*
    George Headley
    Everton Weekes
    Brian Lara
    Gary Sobers
    Jeff Dujon+
    Malcolm Marshall
    Michael Holding
    Curtley Ambrose
    Joel Garner

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    Australia
    1. Trumper
    2. Ponsford
    3. Bradman
    4. Greg Chappell
    5. Harvey
    6. Miller
    7. Warne
    8.Lindwall
    9.Oldfield
    10.Lillee
    11.Orielly

    West Indies
    1. Hunte
    2. Worrell
    3. Richards
    4. Weekes
    5. Lara
    6. Sobers
    7. Alexander
    8. Marshall
    9. Holding
    10. Roberts
    11.Gibbs


    Both teams have top quality batsmen right upto number six. Seven and eight can bat too and have very good test knocks.

    There are three top grade fast bowlers and two spinners in Australia and West Indies have three pure fast bowlers, one off spinner, one leg spinner(Worrell), one left arm spinner cum left arm fast bowler.

    Both sides have arguably their best keepers of all time.

    I would say West Indies is the stronger side but Australia have Bradman !!

    Australian spinners are oth leg spinners. Cant help it. At leats Orielly is not a conventional leg spinner and was more in the fastish/Kumble mould.

    Worrell HAS opened for West Indies six times and has a top score of 191 not out in that position. with an average of 49.4.

    The very idea of a match between these two sides gives me goose pimples

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    My teams, for what it's worth...

    Australia
    Arthur Morris
    Justin Langer
    Don Bradman (c)
    Greg Chappell
    Steve Waugh
    Keith Miller
    Adam Gilchrist (k)
    Alan Davidson
    Shane Warne
    Dennis Lillee
    Glenn McGrath

    West Indies
    Conrad Hunte
    Gordon Greenidge
    Viv Richards
    George Headley
    Brian Lara
    Gary Sobers (c)
    Jeff Dujon (k)
    Malcolm Marshall
    Andy Roberts
    Michael Holding
    Curtley Ambrose

    Neil Harvey, Ray Lindwall, Bill O'Reilly, Joel Garner, Lance Gibbs and each of the 3 Ws all unlucky to miss out, of course. Someone has to though.
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    Walcott(wk)
    Richards
    Lara
    Headley
    Sobers
    Marshall
    Roberts
    Holding
    Garner
    Ambrose
    Walsh

    The 6 bowlers bowl you out for less than 200 and the 5 batsman wipe that out.
    Or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamee999
    Walcott(wk)
    Richards
    Lara
    Headley
    Sobers
    Marshall
    Roberts
    Holding
    Garner
    Ambrose
    Walsh

    The 6 bowlers bowl you out for less than 200 and the 5 batsman wipe that out.
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    Only made for West Indian fast, seaming pitches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slifer
    My windies team would be:

    Hunte
    Richards
    Headley
    Lara
    Weekes
    Sobers
    Walcott (to offset the Advantage the Ozzies have with Gilchrist)
    Marshall
    Holding
    Garner
    Ambrose

    Over 5 tests home and away i think both teams would win in their own backyards but not by much.
    What I don't understand is that you put Worrell above Hunte in another post (Top ten WI batsmen and bowlers) yet you put Hunte as your opener despite the fact that Worrell was also an opener?

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    Well to be honest I never knew that Worrell ever opened in tests so it was just lack of knowledge on my half.

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    I agree with Faaip's Aussie test side almost completely- i would bat Gilly above Miller and have Simpson over Morris.

    For WI, i would pick this squad:

    Hunte
    Haynes
    Viv
    Lara
    Kanhai
    Sobers
    Walcott(wk)
    Marshall
    Ambrose
    Holding
    Garner

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    Here is an interesting question. Who do you think would do well, the batters or bowlers if this match actually happened? Like if it is a low scoring game, then obviously the bowlers have done well or if it is a 300+ game for both sides, then the batters have done well. My gut feeling is that, even on the flattest track, the bowlers of both sides would still be able to bowl out the others for less than 300..... Bradman stranded on 99, I would think
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