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    any video of your bowling zorax? video uploading can be a hassle though
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    I have one on my insta of my old action. Since then I've worked out a few kinks, I get a lot more revs and energy through the ball (I can actually spin it now!) but it takes me a while till I get into rhythm. And even then, I feel my runup and delivery stride is changing on a day to day basis - the fundamental release is consistent, but how I run in and how far my feet are in my delivery stride isn't at all.

    So I'm refraining from filming myself against until I feel I can hit some rhythm consistently. I really like the way I release the ball now, so I'm probably just gonna work on the delivery stride first - basically just standing and then getting into the final few steps of the action right away and bowling. It'll be a bit slow but once I can get that nailed down, I'll then start walking/running a bit more and get the ball going quicker through the air.

    Problem is I can't really do that in the team practices that I go for, because it's all experimental. If I do this in the nets against real batsmen I'll just be offering up garbage and hindering their practice. So I should book out the nets for a few days where it's just me and some stumps, and sort of re-learn my runup and delivery step by step, memorise it, make sure it's letting me release the ball the way I want to, and then take that into the nets against real batsmen.


    There are a few things I like about my bowling now, but overall its still really **** lol. I won't be uploading any videos here till I have a decent, repeated, match-usable runup and action. I need some sort of framework in place before I start making minor tweaks here and there to improve it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zorax View Post
    Have you had any luck with the carrom ball? Or the doosra?
    Carom ball is THE front of the hand leg spinner. Whether the spinning finger is middle (classical variety) or the ring depends on what you have been using. S. Prasanna for Sri Lanka, a wrist spinner, but spins his leg breaks off the middle finger. The wrist spin leg break and carom ball leg break, the difference comes from the way the wrist is used.

    Doosra is bloody hard to bowl without chucking unless you have a bit of joint laxity. I am pretty chunky and muscular, so this one is not for me.
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    Another variation some off spinners use is to coil the index finger to maximise spin on the ball. It's going to come out slow. so the action has to get bit more brisker. But works for some people (Aravinda was one of them) and that is the ball that crashes in to stumps (two famous deliveries to Ponting and Healy from Aravinda in '96WC are his coiled finger off breaks).
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    The other thing I haven't seen mentioned yet that I reckon is very important in bowling finger spin, is driving through with the back hip. From my experience, it helps you get revs on the ball and get it down the other end quicker, without compromising on flight.

    Nathan Lyon does it well here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isyZ3YcewYc
    Clarke gets his body into really good positions bowling his left arm orthodox, to the point that his less-than-stellar seam release doesn't hurt him too much: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPZudnEgJFw
    And Glenn Maxwell, bowling around the wicket, does it pretty well too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pob_HT9UWb8

    Only Australian examples, but I think if you look at most conventional offies/orthodox spinners the world over, that powerful driving through with the back leg is a key part of their success.
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    Cricket Monthly published this awesome article which contains interviews from Mushtaq, Tahir and MacGill. Although mostly about leg spin, it's useful read. Inspirational.

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    I've recently learnt a new key to bowling fingerspin - how you release the ball.

    Basically your want to release it in a way the sends the ball upwards into the sky instead of down into the pitch. This means you rotate your wrist so that, at the moment of release, the ball floats out from your fingers/thumbs and your palm is pointing towards the side and turning upwards.

    This allows your to transfer a lot of your energy into revs in the ball whilst also finding good loop.

    It's a small thing, but something that's easier said than done. Has brought my offspin bowling ahead quite a bit. Finding more turn and getting nice loop on it too. It adds that element to your bowling that gets the batsmen reaching for the ball.
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    Everyone has these little mental tricks to get loop. Some people think about reaching up to grab something, others think of screwing a lightbulb. I learnt a really neat trick the other day regarding fingerspin. It's more a physical change than mental though.

    So you start by holding the ball in your dominant hand with the typical offspinners grip. Thumb on or off is up to you but I find this easier with it off. Then you take a couple of steps from the crease to your mark, and here's the trick, you just keep walking and don't stop till you're outside the field because fingerspin is a disgrace to cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    Everyone has these little mental tricks to get loop. Some people think about reaching up to grab something, others think of screwing a lightbulb. I learnt a really neat trick the other day regarding fingerspin. It's more a physical change than mental though.

    So you start by holding the ball in your dominant hand with the typical offspinners grip. Thumb on or off is up to you but I find this easier with it off. Then you take a couple of steps from the crease to your mark, and here's the trick, you just keep walking and don't stop till you're outside the field because fingerspin is a disgrace to cricket.
    hahaha how funny.

    Also please refrain from reminding us that finger spin isn't real bowling. I'll have to report you for spincial discrimination otherwise.
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