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    Quote Originally Posted by fredfertang View Post
    Everyone cricket fan I know has been concerned for months that we might well be on for a hammering in this series, and once Stokes was taken out of the equation it became almost inevitable
    Pretty much exactly it. I'm feeling like the beaten cur who flinches when his master raises his hand and is pathetically grateful when he isn't thrashed.

    The moments of hope still hurt the most though and we've had them in every test: Oz 220 odd/7 at the Gabba, Root unbeaten overnight in the Adelaide chase and Malan & Bairstow's partnership at the WACA. As Basil Fawlty had it, I can cope with the despair, but the hope will kill you
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    Wait, did somebody say Warner is at least as good as Boycott? That's really rather funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNT View Post
    And then for the rest of the series made 25, 6, 3, 33, 10, 6
    Still arrived with a career average against India of 57.05 (47.12 in India) as compared with Warner's 36.03 (24.25).
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    Quote Originally Posted by S.Kennedy View Post
    Still arrived with a career average against India of 57.05 (47.12 in India) as compared with Warner's 36.03 (24.25).
    Whatever floats your boat, but if as the thread is alluding to then we can only assume that players like Williamson, Root and Kholi would be a lot less successful against the bowlers of the eighties and not be anything other than average cricketers. Batsmen from the eighties like Border, S Waugh and Dean Jones if batting today would be miles ahead of Williamson, Root, De Villiers and co.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TNT View Post
    Whatever floats your boat, but if as the thread is alluding to then we can only assume that players like Williamson, Root and Kholi would be a lot less successful against the bowlers of the eighties and not be anything other than average cricketers. Batsmen from the eighties like Border, S Waugh and Dean Jones if batting today would be miles ahead of Williamson, Root, De Villiers and co.
    I noticed you patriotically included three non-Australians as the ones being 'less successful' if batting in an earlier era, and all-Australians as being the three who would be more successful if batting in a later era haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.Kennedy View Post
    I noticed you patriotically included three non-Australians as the ones being 'less successful' if batting in an earlier era, and all-Australians as being the three who would be more successful if batting in a later era haha.
    I do that to give you an out, if you cant fault my logic you are still able to point out my patriotism and we both are right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNT View Post
    I do that to give you an out, if you cant fault my logic you are still able to point out my patriotism and we both are right.
    You could have thrown in a Tendulkar or Crowe in the section you placed the three Australians just to emit a semblance of impartiality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.Kennedy View Post
    You could have thrown in a Tendulkar or Crowe in the section you placed the three Australians just to emit a semblance of impartiality.
    Its cricket, they are cricketers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNT View Post
    Its cricket, they are cricketers.
    Off-topic but do you eat pie floaters? That is haute cuisine. A pie drowning in a sea of peas. I only discovered its existence a few years ago and have been (morbidly) fascinated with this dish ever since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.Kennedy View Post
    Off-topic but do you eat pie floaters? That is haute cuisine. A pie drowning in a sea of peas. I only discovered its existence a few years ago and have been (morbidly) fascinated with this dish ever since.
    Is that a roundabout way of asking me if I'm a croweater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNT View Post
    Is that a roundabout way of asking me if I'm a croweater.
    I do not know what one of those is but I discovered pictures of this disgusting object a few years ago on the internet and was wondering whether you ate it considering you seem a patriotic 'Australia or nothing' sort of chap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.Kennedy View Post
    I do not know what one of those is but I discovered pictures of this disgusting object a few years ago on the internet and was wondering whether you ate it considering you seem a patriotic 'Australia or nothing' sort of chap.
    Pie floaters are South Australian, they eat them in the winter at the football.

    We call South Australians croweaters, they used to eat crows (probably still do) and their state football team are the crows even though they now have two teams, the other is Port (they drink a lot of Port).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    Cook would have struggled to open in an era where Boycott and Gooch, among others, were options. Had Cook been picked though, he would have no doubt done well.

    Root would have made it.

    Incidentally, Steyn is probably the closest bowler around today, style-wise, to Lillee. Lillee has a broader repotoire as he got older though.
    Too young to recall Lillee, but Steyn is phenomenal.

    Incidentally, my autocorrect tried to change Lillee to Killer ... which I guess fits
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    Pretty much exactly it. I'm feeling like the beaten cur who flinches when his master raises his hand and is pathetically grateful when he isn't thrashed.

    The moments of hope still hurt the most though and we've had them in every test: Oz 220 odd/7 at the Gabba, Root unbeaten overnight in the Adelaide chase and Malan & Bairstow's partnership at the WACA. As Basil Fawlty had it, I can cope with the despair, but the hope will kill you
    This. Two blokes at work discussing how we'd probably beat Australia down under. I didn't even bother engaging. I seriously had us at evens for a 5-0 ass ****ing

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.Kennedy View Post
    I noticed you patriotically included three non-Australians as the ones being 'less successful' if batting in an earlier era, and all-Australians as being the three who would be more successful if batting in a later era haha.
    Tbf you and TNT are just as bad as each other re. the one-eyed patriotism
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