*Official* Tour Matches - Page 114

Woodster · 12-12-2010, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jacknife

Does the pitch look like the rains given it a bit of juice today?

It didn't look like it was doing anything too excessive at all, couple of loose shots, probably still a very slow pitch, and in the end Prior showed what was possible with the right application.

Nice to see Prior gets some runs under his belt, decent enough workout for the boys, now back to the serious business.

Himannv · 12-12-2010, 11:55 AM

Really dont like mid series tour games like this one. I dont see it serving any purpose, except perhaps improving the form of certain players, give a team overconfidence, provide possible injuries, disrupt the flow of the in form side (which I think is probably going to be the result here) or simply waste time on what is essentially worse than a dead rubber.

marc71178 · 12-12-2010, 12:39 PM

In theory this game had one big purpose though - Bresnan vs Tremlett vs Shahzad.

Woodster · 12-12-2010, 12:42 PM

Yes I think one of the main aims is to ensure the players on the fringe, that have played very little cricket on this tour, manage to get some game time and a chance to get some overs in, or spend some time in the middle should they be required in the last few Tests.

Burgey · 12-12-2010, 10:40 PM

Agreed Dixon. Couldn't agree more.

Incidentally my back is out. Can you help? And if you refer a car accident case, I'll give you a sling, ok?

Rant0r · 16-12-2010, 05:30 AM

I know they can't bring everyone over, but I wonder why Onions didn't tour ?

Howe_zat · 16-12-2010, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Rant0r

I know they can't bring everyone over, but I wonder why Onions didn't tour ?

Injured, out for the whole winter.

Rant0r · 16-12-2010, 05:32 AM

Damn, another of the backup pace battery that I rate a bit. Bresnan not being one of those

GIMH · 16-12-2010, 06:19 AM

I'd imagine a fit Onions would be ahead of Finn in the queue, although I don't say that with any certainty.

Our pace stocks look reasonable at the minute. Anderson bowling well. Broad doing okay when fit. Finn taking wickets. Onions injured. Tremlett looking impressive in this match. Shazhad seems to have potential. And Bresnan isn't the worst guy in the world to have waiting in the wings.

Howe_zat · 16-12-2010, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero

I'd imagine a fit Onions would be ahead of Finn in the queue, although I don't say that with any certainty.

Our pace stocks look reasonable at the minute. Anderson bowling well. Broad doing okay when fit. Finn taking wickets. Onions injured. Tremlett looking impressive in this match. Shazhad seems to have potential. And Bresnan isn't the worst guy in the world to have waiting in the wings.

Don't forget the next gen talent - Chris Woakes, James Harris and Nathan Buck.

Rant0r · 16-12-2010, 06:28 AM

I think Finn would still get the nod, but not a bad backup in Onions, both still rather raw. Bresnan should really stick to organising Bucks Parties, I can't believe they try to call him an "allrounder"

flibbertyjibber · 16-12-2010, 05:22 PM

Bresnan is a very good one day player who is currently in and around the test side. I can't see that lasting much longer, we have too many better bowling options than him, his only way into the side would be as a number 7 but he isn't a good enough bat to be that high in the order, he could do the 5th bowler role but not the batting.

Bresnan is you typical bits and pieces county pro, jack of all trades master of none in the Mark Ealham mould. I'd have him in every one day side as he can be used enabling the selectors to rotate and rest Broad/Anderson as and when is required to keep them fit but deep down i don't think he is good enough to be a test player.

GingerFurball · 16-12-2010, 05:40 PM

Bresnan's not international class.

Pup Clarke · 16-12-2010, 05:49 PM

He gets a bit of a raw deal tbh. If he's going to have any success, I think it's going to come at test level rather than the ODI's

four_or_six · 16-12-2010, 06:02 PM

He's also only 25 despite it seeming like he's been around for years. I reckon he could still do a good job for us, even if it's as our 4th/5th choice bowler who comes in when there's injuries rather than as a first pick.

12-12-2010, 11:55 AM	#1697 (permalink)
Himannv International Captain Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: SL Posts: 6,168	Really dont like mid series tour games like this one. I dont see it serving any purpose, except perhaps improving the form of certain players, give a team overconfidence, provide possible injuries, disrupt the flow of the in form side (which I think is probably going to be the result here) or simply waste time on what is essentially worse than a dead rubber. __________________ "I will go down as Darren Sammy, the one who always smiles" - Darren Sammy

12-12-2010, 12:39 PM	#1698 (permalink)
marc71178 Eyes not spreadsheets Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: England Posts: 56,346	In theory this game had one big purpose though - Bresnan vs Tremlett vs Shahzad. __________________ marc71178 - President and founding member of AAAS - we don't only appreciate when he does well, but also when he's not quite so good! Anyone want to join the Society? Beware the evils of Kit-Kats - they're immoral apparently.

12-12-2010, 10:40 PM	#1700 (permalink)
Burgey Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The Castle Posts: 35,141	Agreed Dixon. Couldn't agree more. Incidentally my back is out. Can you help? And if you refer a car accident case, I'll give you a sling, ok? __________________ WWCC - Loyaulte Mi Lie "People make me happy.. not places.. people" "When a man is tired of London, he is tired of life." - Samuel Johnson "Oh my God, there's a castle! A castle!" Last edited by Burgey; 12-12-2010 at 10:45 PM.

16-12-2010, 06:19 AM	#1704 (permalink)
GIMH Eternal Optimist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Shake my tree where's the apple for me? Posts: 43,617	I'd imagine a fit Onions would be ahead of Finn in the queue, although I don't say that with any certainty. Our pace stocks look reasonable at the minute. Anderson bowling well. Broad doing okay when fit. Finn taking wickets. Onions injured. Tremlett looking impressive in this match. Shazhad seems to have potential. And Bresnan isn't the worst guy in the world to have waiting in the wings. __________________ Watch out, for as soon as it pleases them they’ll send you out to protect their gold in wars whose weapons, rapidly developed by servile scientists, will become more and more deadly until they can with a flick of the finger tear a million of you to pieces RIP Craigos. A true CW legend. You will be missed.

16-12-2010, 05:49 PM	#1709 (permalink)
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12-12-2010, 12:42 PM	#1699 (permalink)
Woodster Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Manchester, England Posts: 5,153	Yes I think one of the main aims is to ensure the players on the fringe, that have played very little cricket on this tour, manage to get some game time and a chance to get some overs in, or spend some time in the middle should they be required in the last few Tests.

16-12-2010, 05:30 AM	#1701 (permalink)
Rant0r International 12th Man Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Country West Australia Posts: 1,534	I know they can't bring everyone over, but I wonder why Onions didn't tour ?

16-12-2010, 05:32 AM	#1703 (permalink)
Rant0r International 12th Man Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Country West Australia Posts: 1,534	Damn, another of the backup pace battery that I rate a bit. Bresnan not being one of those

16-12-2010, 06:28 AM	#1706 (permalink)
Rant0r International 12th Man Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Country West Australia Posts: 1,534	I think Finn would still get the nod, but not a bad backup in Onions, both still rather raw. Bresnan should really stick to organising Bucks Parties, I can't believe they try to call him an "allrounder"

16-12-2010, 05:22 PM	#1707 (permalink)
flibbertyjibber Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: England Posts: 7,941	Bresnan is a very good one day player who is currently in and around the test side. I can't see that lasting much longer, we have too many better bowling options than him, his only way into the side would be as a number 7 but he isn't a good enough bat to be that high in the order, he could do the 5th bowler role but not the batting. Bresnan is you typical bits and pieces county pro, jack of all trades master of none in the Mark Ealham mould. I'd have him in every one day side as he can be used enabling the selectors to rotate and rest Broad/Anderson as and when is required to keep them fit but deep down i don't think he is good enough to be a test player.

16-12-2010, 06:02 PM	#1710 (permalink)
four_or_six Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 9,136	He's also only 25 despite it seeming like he's been around for years. I reckon he could still do a good job for us, even if it's as our 4th/5th choice bowler who comes in when there's injuries rather than as a first pick.

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