We know he isn't in the same league as Murali or Warne in much the same way that Steyn is currently the number 1 paceman around and isn't as good as Donald, Ambrose, Pollock, McGrath etc from the 90's onwards, it doesn't mean he is being overhyped.
Swann is THE best spinner around at present, he would still be regarded as a very good one even if Muarli and Warne were still playing but no Englishman has ever said Swann is better than those two geniuses and any who did is either on drink or drugs.
They've played a similar amount of games and Swann comfortably has the better average. He has more 5 wicket hauls, more 10 wickets hauls blah blah blah..
A few games against Bangladesh, in which he didn't even play brilliantly, don't suddenly account for that and certainly don't make him a worse bowler. He has better attributes than Shakib anyway.
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Alex Keath looking like getting a game for Victoria? Wasn't he a good chance to get drafted if he hadn't chosen cricket?
I rate Shakib highly but he only has so many 5w hauls because he is forced to bowl himself almost all day. He is the best bowler in his own team, and produced an outstanding performance in SA. He also took apart a terrible WI side, but this only amounts to four matches.
In the rest of his matches, including all his matches at home, Shakib averages 38.
Swann has produced consistently good to excellent performances around the world and his averages largely reflect the quality of the batting against him. Take out his four best matches against Pakistan, and he still averages 30.5, which in the modern game is still very good.
No one ever talks about 'the weak, silent type'. When's their moment?
I haven't observed Shakib closely before, but I caught a bit of him bowling against Zimbabwe a couple of days back and his action looked very roundarm-ish to me. That's not a good thing for an off-spinner, is it?
Wow, and it's a extremely unfair to him to say that he got those 5 wicket hauls just coz he bowled all day. Swann's bowled 50, 49, 45 and 41 overs in 4 of his wicket hauls while Shakib's worst came from 38 overs. And he has no quality bowlers to back him, be it spinners or seamers to maintain the pressure at the other end. And Shakib had to bowl against SL, India, SA, Eng, and those are all top class teams. Except India, he's played all of them away and at home.
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