View Poll Results: Do you prefer watching Ashes contents more when the venue is Australia or England?

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  • Aussie supporter prefers matches in Australia

    6 15.00%
  • English support prefers matches in Australia

    0 0%
  • Aussie supporter prefers matches in England

    8 20.00%
  • English supporter prefers matches in England

    16 40.00%
  • Neutral prefers matches in Australia

    4 10.00%
  • Neurtral prefers matches in England

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Thread: Ashes Tests in Australia or England/Wales

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    Cricket Web Staff Member stumpski's Avatar
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    Aye, but rain breaks were better in them days - they usually showed Massie's match or something like that (unlike TMS on Radio 3, which soon cut to classical music). Now we get a one-day game from last year, or even the previous Test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyB View Post
    Love to Watch England win in Australia
    You must be at least my age then - they last won a series here in 86-87.
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    Prefer the Series in England TBH.

    See Series every year out here in Australia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stumpski View Post
    Option #4 for me. I would assume most Aus/Eng supporters would prefer to see matches in their own country, otherwise it's all on in the middle of the night - and most of us have to get up in the morning.
    My thoughts on the matter pretty much. Though lying in the dark, quiet winter(\spring) night with the TV on and the cover up your head knowing that you don't have to do much when the morning comes has its own appeal, it's nothing on watching a ground a few hundred miles (or less) away with the sun streaming in through the window and blue skies outside knowing that you don't have to change your desired sleeping patterns to watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyB View Post
    Love to Watch England win in Australia
    You must be older than the general crowd here then if you remember 1970/71 or 1954/55 then!

    (Presuming of course you are indeed on about Ashes Test series' against Australia [rather than the Australia A of 1978/79], given that we did in fact win something in 2006/07 )

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    We did win there in 86/87 as well
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    Yeah, bit odd that
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    I prefer to abolish the 4 years 1986-1989 from memory TBH. Not a good time (TSTL) for English cricket (and mostly not a good time for Australian cricket either). Probably a good job I don't actually remember it at all in fact.

    Either way, Australia were missing at least 5 players who would have been first-teamers if they'd not been banned due to touring SA with Rebel teams. Almost counts as Australia A in that series as well.

    Certainly '70/71 was the last time England won in Australia against a full-strength team. And the only other genuine victories (ie, excluding the Bodyline series) post-WW1 were in 1954/55 and 1928/29 as well.

    In short, England have beaten Australia's best team, away, under conventional cricketing circumstances, just 3 times in the last 90 years.

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    How was Bodyline not genuine?

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    Richard doesn't like it, and therefore it didn't happen. It's like my one-year-old who closes her eyes when being asked to eat food she doesn't like on the basis that if you ignore it hard enough, it will cease to be real.

    see also: "ineducated"

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaremba View Post
    Richard doesn't like it
    News to me - the Bodyline series is and has and will always remain one of the most fascinating in cricket history, from a cricket and social POV.

    But there's no way you can equate it to "normal" cricket. England won via means that no-one had ever considered the unfairness of, and their victory meant it suddenly was considered, and the method was thenceforth outlawed.

    Bowling consistently short, leg-side and quickly to 6-7 fielders behind square on the leg is a strategy no-one could hope to have consistent success against. Especially on deadly uneven decks like the Third Test of that series.
    Last edited by Richard; 07-07-2009 at 01:56 PM.

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    Well I for one would have been proud to have worn the Harlequin cap and ordered the pit men to bang it in short against the colonial upstarts.

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    TBH it's been so long I can't even remember the last Ashes series in Australia. When was it? 2003 right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaggy Alfresco View Post
    TBH it's been so long I can't even remember the last Ashes series in Australia. When was it? 2003 right?
    Nah, I told you, it was 1970/71. Before most of us on here were even born.

    Since then there've been a large number of series' masquerading as Ashes, which the team masquerading as Australia have won, and there was a series in 1978/79 where England played Australia A and us English lot being the fair types we are don't actually consider that a genuine Ashes. People also tell me there was something in 1986/87 as well, where something happened along the lines of a rat winning the battle against a fieldmouse - so we don't tend to mention that either.

    It just ain't like it used to be! The glory days of '70/71 and before can surely never be truly recaptured!
    Last edited by Richard; 07-07-2009 at 02:51 PM.

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