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    That's actually quite disgusting

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    Sterling was one of the best English players in the Sweden game.

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    The Sterling bullshit is exclusively because he's black. Nothing else to it. If nothing was different except he was white he'd be beloved in the press for all the charity stuff he does for underprivileged kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    That's actually quite disgusting
    Haha yeah it's just the tip of the iceberg of English national team media coverage. They relentlessly abuse their own in a way that looks utterly bizarre from the outside. Been doing it for as long as anyone can remember, too.

    Just imagining the Irish press running a string of articles ripping apart Shane Duffy after a bad result. People wouldn't stand for it.


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    But it is not as if certain English players of the past have not set themselves up for a media deconstruction job, bed hopping, crashing Lamborghinis and racism being just some of the shenanigans indulged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S.Kennedy View Post
    But it is not as if certain English players of the past have not set themselves up for a media deconstruction job, bed hopping, crashing Lamborghinis and racism being just some of the shenanigans indulged.
    Fine, but those aren't really the events that come to mind are they? Bobby Robson and Graham Taylor crashed very few Lamborghinis and copped more abuse than anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dontcloseyoureyes View Post
    The Sterling bullshit is exclusively because he's black. Nothing else to it. If nothing was different except he was white he'd be beloved in the press for all the charity stuff he does for underprivileged kids.
    Not entirely convinced about your first point. I don't have to flog my memory too hard to think of lots of black England players who never copped any abuse at all.

    I think it's more down to a perception that he massively under-achieves for his country, if you choose to judge a player in his position by little things like goals and assists. And yes, I know his stats for City were fine, but once you're in the national side, that's where you should be judged. Otherwise Graeme Hick and Mark Ramprakash would be viewed as two of the finest batsmen ever to draw breath.
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    Wasn't he copping garbage while he was still playing for Liverpool and not even in the national side yet?

    And, I mean, "he doesn't score enough for England" is a pretty poor justification for writing articles on whether he eats breakfast or not.
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    Yeah the abuse predates the underperformance by a year or two. Quite likely that the underperformance partly results from the abuse.

    It can be traced back to the wave of attacks from ex-Liverpool players in the media after he decided to leave and gave those interviews about it. Then the rags took the opportunity to turn him into a hate figure to play on the prejudices of their readership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OverratedSanity View Post
    He got a gun tattoo on his leg and flew on a budget airline. Which means he's a terrible person.
    Thatís probably true tbf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uppercut View Post
    Oh yeah he's been targeted for years. https://twitter.com/adamkeyworth/sta...502530?lang=en

    I think England should win this one quite easily fwiw. Croatia probably have better players but are less than the sum of their parts. Really unusual dynamic given that England are the big name.
    Thatís ****ing terrible. Hope he scores a hat trick tomorrow (in a 4-3 loss of course).

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    I do think him being black plays a huge part tbh. Up here itís definitely the Liverpool thing too but otherwise Iím with Smooteh.

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    Guys, 27 posts in and we are missing the obvious?


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    But amazing pop songs aside, England probably win, Croatia must be knackered. Not enough quality in there side once you get past the immense midfield. Mandzukic especially is bang average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uppercut View Post
    Oh yeah he's been targeted for years. https://twitter.com/adamkeyworth/sta...502530?lang=en

    I think England should win this one quite easily fwiw. Croatia probably have better players but are less than the sum of their parts. Really unusual dynamic given that England are the big name.
    So he gets it in the neck for flying on a private jet yet also gets criticised for flying on Easyjet.

    OK.
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