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    Quote Originally Posted by TT Boy View Post
    Lets…Your talking bollocks.

    Captain Smith after defeat against Australia- “We just weren't good enough. We were outplayed and you have got to give credit (to Australia)”.

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    South Africa’s ‘grievances’ you highlight are perfectly 'valid' - the wicket against Pakistan was not acceptable (acknowledged by Bob Woolmer) and the toss against New Zealand was critical (but again South Africa still acknowledged their faux pas).

    You’re the guy who has the agenda, an agenda which began after South Africa left Colombo early last summer.
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    Also it's a fair call that SA loss to Australia in the group stages because Smith cramped up. It's something the bookies acknowledged, they were favourites at that stage and they were ahead of the required run-rate and were looking brilliant. Anyone watching the game live knew at that stage (right before Smith went down) that SA had a high probability of winning the game. Smith went down and SA fell apart. It's fair to say that SA would probably have won if not for the cramps. My point is, if everyone was acknowledging it (including the Australians on this forum and the bookies at the time) why does it mean that when Smith actually says it in the media, it's a case of poor sportsmanship? It's the truth ffs.
    I've said it countless thousands of times - there's simply a liking in World cricket to brand the SAfricans whingers - it's probably worse than ever over here, but it tends to go on everywhere.

    The simple fact is, as Neil Manthorp has pointed-out any number of times (the best example being this and in the fourth paragraph of this) that there are good reasons for many defeats. Sometimes, yes, you have to acknowledge that the better side won. And generally when that is the case, the SAfricans do.
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    why didn't murali come in and bat at 10 like he was supposed to in the final?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JASON View Post
    As a Sri Lankan I am proud of the way the Sri Lankan Team and Captain behaved and accepted the result of the Final.

    In this World Cup I have only come across one Team that has been a sore loser or kept finding excuses time after time everytime they lost.

    I am of course referring to the South Africans. Whenever they lost they never acknowledged that they lost to the better Team.

    When they lost to Pakistan in the practice match they blamed the pitch.

    When they lost to Australia the first time they blamed it on Graeme Smith's cramps (wonder whether they forgot about the rest of the Team there) .

    When they lost to NZ they blamed it on the toss.

    They never admitted or acknowledged they were beaten by the better Team on the day...Any thoughts comments...

    To me it seems a lack of magnanimity in admitting they lost to the better team...is part of this SA Team leadership.
    Biggest load of crap I have had the mis-fortune to read in this forum.
    IN MY OPINION this was posted by a Saffie hater who didn't either listen to any of the post match interviews with Smith, or read any of them.
    He quoted other people every time and nowhere do I see a direct quote from the Captain.
    You can hate us as much as you like, that is your prerogative, but don't go on about sportsmanship, etc. and then post such a blatantly biased load of rubbish. It's not good sportsmanship!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slats4ever View Post
    why didn't murali come in and bat at 10 like he was supposed to in the final?
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    I agree with Jason that Mahela was absolutely gracious in Defeat. He did not resort to whining about Injuries, Toss,Conditions, Weather, Luck, ect ...... to take anything away from the opposition.

    In short Mahela has been an Example this WC final.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JASON View Post
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    In this World Cup I have only come across one Team that has been a sore loser or kept finding excuses time after time everytime they lost.

    I am of course referring to the South Africans.
    Totally agree, they are a complete set of n**s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slats4ever View Post
    why didn't murali come in and bat at 10 like he was supposed to in the final?
    Because getting your best player injured in pitch darkness is stupid?
    Or something.

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    Being Magnanimous in Defeat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ash_A55 View Post
    Totally agree, they are a complete set of n**s
    Nuts isn't filtered, believe it or not, and avoiding the filter is not the deadset best idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Nuts isn't filtered, believe it or not, and avoiding the filter is not the deadset best idea.
    Give it a rest Richard, you do it all the time... using **** and saying ffs. Clean up your own back yard first, mate. People will get off your back a bit if you stop preaching to people about trivial and pedantic things like this.

    Please don't take it the wrong way either...it's meant to be constructive criticism and I'm not just having a crack at you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JASON View Post
    Just because 1 player went off with cramps and you blame a loss on that, in all honesty you were not good enough to win. 1 player does not = the whole Team , whatever you might say.

    They were just not good enough on that day , nor were they good enough on the other 4 occasions (including loss to Bang) ...I mean you can accept an excuse for 1 loss...but to do it time after time after every loss...its a bit pathetic, IMHO..
    Uh that one partnership looked to steer the saffies to victory. 1 player doesn't= the team but 1 player can change the out come of the game. that's how cricket is and that's how other sports are too. kobe shouldn't = the lakers but that's how it kind of is. If kobe does good lakers wins most time, if he doesn't they don't but again kobe doesn't= the whole team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jot1 View Post
    Biggest load of crap I have had the mis-fortune to read in this forum.
    IN MY OPINION this was posted by a Saffie hater who didn't either listen to any of the post match interviews with Smith, or read any of them.
    He quoted other people every time and nowhere do I see a direct quote from the Captain.
    You can hate us as much as you like, that is your prerogative, but don't go on about sportsmanship, etc. and then post such a blatantly biased load of rubbish. It's not good sportsmanship!
    Errm...Because I dislike their inability to accept defeat and be magnanimous...I am a Saffie Hater....where are you from .... Don't get into a victim mentality and think the whole world hates you ...or that people are there with Vendetta against you... Just highlighting the negative nature of your Team and their PR that has bee pretty poor after losses...ok

    And by the way your posts are usually a lot of nonsense...so I am not surprised about the lack of sense in your post again.

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