South Africa are they still wearing the chocker tag?

[Richard]

It's no coincidence that we had both games virtually won before wickets at a crucial time in both yanked them away.

The ultimate WC choke, though, has to be 1983. West Indies losing to India is easily the biggest upset in WC-final history.

[wpdavid]

Originally Posted by Richard

It's no coincidence that we had both games virtually won before wickets at a crucial time in both yanked them away.

The ultimate WC choke, though, has to be 1983. West Indies losing to India is easily the biggest upset in WC-final history.

Dunno if that was a choke as such. More like a severe case of over-confidence, imo.

[Richard]

They were chasing a piss-easy target. I hate the word "choke" ITFP, TBH, so I prefer to just say lost what you should have won easily. Which they undoubtedly did.

[jot1]

This is the most boring subject ever. No matter in what thread the words South Africa comes up in, there will also be a few pages of posts with the word chokers in it. Same old, same old. Makes one lose interest in any discussion of the team immediately. And you all wonder why you have so few Saffies on this forum.

[Richard]

TBH I don't think it's the only reason - James posted net-access stats for Round The World and apparently it's a pretty darn small percentage of the population in SA.

May have something to do with it, though - there are several SAfricans who've posted a little and then disappeared - DocHead was one of the best. And it is a shame.

[frey]

Originally Posted by jot1

This is the most boring subject ever. No matter in what thread the words South Africa comes up in, there will also be a few pages of posts with the word chokers in it. Same old, same old. Makes one lose interest in any discussion of the team immediately. And you all wonder why you have so few Saffies on this forum.

Boring?? Quite the opposite really. I just had a quick look at the on-line news reports out of South Africa, and this match and the "choke" is somewhat breaking news and front page news. It appears to be of interest to the nation.

[Richard]

Some people never tire of relentlessly-bashed patronisations, you see.

[frey]

Originally Posted by Trigger_Tiger

Will see tomorrow if they really still are the chokers or not!

A wise and considered response.

[frey]

Originally Posted by Langeveldt

They won't lose the choker tag until they win a world cup.. What I don't understand is why the same doesn't apply to Pakistan, India or England..

Well stated. You can also throw in NZ and Sri Lanka. When the pressure is on in an important match against the best in the world they also choke big time.

[Richard]

Big call I know, and I'm certainly not sure or anything, just a guess...

[Smudge]

Originally Posted by TazzX

I find it funny that NZ has reached the semi's 5 times now and not once have they made it to the finals. Everytime they get hammered ... so LOL .. talk about chockers, you have the real deal right there!

Our cricket team aren't chokers. Our rugby team, on the other hand...

Originally Posted by Prince EWS

I don't see how losing today will prove they are chokers, unless they play ridiculously badly or throw away a winning position. Losing a game you're expected to lose is hardly choking unless there are strange circumstances to the loss.

Bingo. To choke, the generally accepted theory is you should be favourites going into the event.

Originally Posted by nightprowler10

Well, they did in one. Although Inzamam taking the game away from the Kiwis probably doesn't equate them throwing the game away.

And Pakistan did go on to win the final...

Originally Posted by frey

Boring?? Quite the opposite really. I just had a quick look at the on-line news reports out of South Africa, and this match and the "choke" is somewhat breaking news and front page news. It appears to be of interest to the nation.

Really worthy of six s? No.

Originally Posted by Richard

Big call I know, and I'm certainly not sure or anything, just a guess...

Nah, don't reckon it is - just your garden-variety oxygen thief.

[Sanz]

Originally Posted by Langeveldt

They won't lose the choker tag until they win a world cup.. What I don't understand is why the same doesn't apply to Pakistan, India or England..

Because Pakistan, India and/or England weren't the no.1/2 team of last 15 years. Please tell me one decent tournament SA have won since 1991 ?

[Richard]

Originally Posted by Voltman

Really worthy of six s? No.

Evidently all of his posts are worthy of some s somewhere or other. And a post-title. And an icon in the title...

Certainly a pattern there, even if it's not BLE. And some of the sentiments expressed are similar, and the calibre of spelling\grammer is most out-of-kilter with the stupidity perhaps being put-on in the said aforementioned patterns.

[Richard]

Originally Posted by Sanz

Because Pakistan, India and/or England weren't the no.1/2 team of last 15 years. Please tell me one decent tournament SA have won since 1991 ?

Well any number of ODI tri\quad series in the mid-late 1990s, for starters.

[frey]

Really worthy of six s? No.


It is all relative. I laugh long and loud most times. In this case the choker tag on RSA was so obvious if you look back in recent history. IMO worth 6- 8 laughs (at least).