Is the Indian team over-rated?

13-02-2003, 12:15 PM

Is the Indian team over-rated?
They may have a half-decent batting line-up and an excellent wicket-keeper in Rahul Dravid. But,there bowling line-up is quite shocking.
No offense to all those Indian supporters.
But you're team isn't the best in the world by any means.

luckyeddie · 13-02-2003, 12:22 PM

I think that we've been down this route a few times before - and it's quite tedious!

Rik · 13-02-2003, 12:36 PM

Dravid an excellent wicket-keeper? What are you on? He's a stand-in at best.

Anyway watch out, you have critisized the Indian team, therefor you are now an idiot...:rolleyes:

Langeveldt · 13-02-2003, 12:44 PM

Bit of a dangerous newbie thread, just leave it that they are a talented team who need to perform overseas........

Anna · 13-02-2003, 12:51 PM

This sort of thing is best left to someone like Rik

as he is an experienced offender of Indian supporters, although I have a feeling that he is on better terms with them at the mo than he has been previously

13-02-2003, 12:53 PM

Dravid is an excellent player.He's a wicket-keeper and can bat very well at times.He may be not as good at the one-day game but in the test matches, he's an all round quality player. And,after criticising them so much, I needed to say something good about them and that was the only thing I could think of.

Gotchya · 13-02-2003, 01:20 PM

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Originally posted by luckyeddie
I think that we've been down this route a few times before - and it's quite tedious!

Yeah Deja vu....I sense a long thread

Neil Pickup · 13-02-2003, 03:25 PM

This is in the same way that Maher, Shah, Trescothick and Vincent are excellent wicket-keepers, right?

Tim · 13-02-2003, 03:28 PM

err Vincent keeps for Auckland 85% of the time so he's a little different to Trescothick & co. But agreed I doubt he'll ever be NZ's #1 keeper.

marc71178 · 13-02-2003, 03:56 PM

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Originally posted by Rik
Anyway watch out, you have critisized the Indian team, therefor you are now an idiot...:rolleyes:

Give it a rest, the Terrace element have gone.

Rik · 13-02-2003, 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by Anna
This sort of thing is best left to someone like Rik as he is an experienced offender of Indian supporters, although I have a feeling that he is on better terms with them at the mo than he has been previously

Yeah...actually I am...and I respect Anil and M_B's views...sheesh I'm turning soft!

warrioryohannan · 13-02-2003, 04:16 PM

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Originally posted by Matthew Brought
Is the Indian team over-rated?
They may have a half-decent batting line-up and an excellent wicket-keeper in Rahul Dravid. But,there bowling line-up is quite shocking.
No offense to all those Indian supporters.
But you're team isn't the best in the world by any means.

Well right now they aren't rated highly, so how can they be over-rated?

Rahul Dravid is an excellent batsment, but one can't say that he's equally good with the gloves, still he does a decent job behind the stumps.

The bowlers have been doing a decent job in the past couple of months, its the batting that is a headace.I believe the batsmen are short of confidence, they need to regain their lost touch pretty soon!

Anil · 13-02-2003, 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by Matthew Brought
Is the Indian team over-rated?

Overrated by whom(or is it who?)? You, me, the bookies, the ICC, other Indians, Asians, the cricketing community as a whole....? Please specify.

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They may have a half-decent batting line-up and an excellent wicket-keeper in Rahul Dravid. But,there bowling line-up is quite shocking.

The word to describe the Indian batting lineup is not half-decent, it is inconsistent. it can be the best in the world one day and the worst, the next. Dravid has developed into an excellent middle order batsman in ODIs and has the highest average among Indians overseas(48.00) but what he is not, is an excellent wicket-keeper, he is a stand-in so that the team can cram in the maximum number of batsmen(which is technically called maintaining the balance of the team). This action implicitly acknowledges two things:

1) The batting is inconsistent at best and we need all the batsmen we can get.
2) The bowling is weak and can at best do a supporting role to the batsmen(ie; the batsmen have to pile on the runs and then hopefully the pressure will get to the opponents and the bowlers can cash in if we bat first. If we bat second, the batting just has to be mentally prepared to chase a big score. Honorable exceptions overseas are Srinath and an in-form Zaheer). This isn't really shocking anymore, it's been a fact for a long time now that outside of home conditions, Indian bowling sucks.

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No offense to all those Indian supporters.

No offense taken, atleast by me.

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But you're team isn't the best in the world by any means.

No, indeed they are not. So what? We Indians still want them to win.

luckyeddie · 13-02-2003, 04:24 PM

Anil realises we've been there too often in the past too.

Rik · 13-02-2003, 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by luckyeddie
Anil realises we've been there too often in the past too.

And the duck?

13-02-2003, 12:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
Matthew Brought Guest Posts: n/a	Is the Indian team over-rated? Is the Indian team over-rated? They may have a half-decent batting line-up and an excellent wicket-keeper in Rahul Dravid. But,there bowling line-up is quite shocking. No offense to all those Indian supporters. But you're team isn't the best in the world by any means.

13-02-2003, 12:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
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Rik Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Shropshire, England Posts: 8,353	Dravid an excellent wicket-keeper? What are you on? He's a stand-in at best. Anyway watch out, you have critisized the Indian team, therefor you are now an idiot...:rolleyes: __________________ "Age is just a stupid number" 20...that's a rather big number :(:(:(

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13-02-2003, 12:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
Matthew Brought Guest Posts: n/a	Dravid is an excellent player.He's a wicket-keeper and can bat very well at times.He may be not as good at the one-day game but in the test matches, he's an all round quality player. And,after criticising them so much, I needed to say something good about them and that was the only thing I could think of.

13-02-2003, 03:28 PM	#9 (permalink)
Tim Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Auckland Posts: 7,888	err Vincent keeps for Auckland 85% of the time so he's a little different to Trescothick & co. But agreed I doubt he'll ever be NZ's #1 keeper.

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